Discussion about the Britvachka-Valenok party.

Whether to close the thread or not are not options for this poll. So let' same keep our cards close to our chests for now.

I ask that you express opinions on the merits of the case.
I also ask that you reduce and limit theoretical statements, of which I have already seen quite a few. This is far from a textbook situation; therefore, I would like to hear more sober and balanced opinions, considering not only the strength of one player versus the other, but also the specifics of the map template, the duration of the game, the possible turn of events in that situation, the fact that the game was played out, the presence of confusing explanations, etc.

Right now we have a continuation of the situation — the best defense is a good offense. Absolutely no thoughts or explanations of the situation from Andrey. Sometimes you can write a post half a page long and say nothing with it, and sometimes you can say not a word and say everything by doing so.

Vote, don't be shy. Right now the opinion of literally every player is very important, especially the top ones. No one is claiming there was cheating, but it cannot be ruled out either. There are also enough secondary factors to bring this issue up for general discussion. So if anyone thought the matter was settled, that is far from the case. Let's continue.

Well look—1) since he headed there confidently, it turns out he knew what was there, which means he's a cheater... 2) to say that he went there not knowing what was there and found what he found, it turns out he's a cheater... otherwise how did that happen... some strange conclusions...
On 1.4.5 when I looked at the saves... the red hero was standing on the Inferno road (he is visible in blue)... one could have thought that chains were being built there and tried to catch Nella while she was speeding up there (though I don't think that's a viable option)... + Dragon Utopia... 2 turns and we break the utopia.. I think it's more promising than running around somewhere in your own unknown treasure zone (you could break the utopia for now, sending some fodder for scouting beyond the Dungeon village)... on the turn when there was a DD into the cave... then the plan to catch Nella failed (as written below in posts—perhaps he knew Nella was standing in the neighboring utopia and wanted to jump and catch her thinking she would head toward this utopia near the cave).. who knows... now it's like this—since they jumped, we are at the exit to the Dungeon.. went down, no one is there and no chains are visible... going back to your own side via flight is stupid... on the road to the Inferno above as well... on the underground road is also not an option.. drove off the road and found this utopia.. the possibility that Nella hadn't cleared the treasure zone yet—since it's like that, let's see what's further... but everything there was already clean... then I understand he crashed into a fodder unit in the city...
Regarding the red players' game... someone said—it's strange that they went specifically there (to the treasure zone where the angel nicknames are).. why not?? I don't intend to kill all the computers with just one ГГ... fodder units kill them perfectly along the chains, and in the 1st week I used to kill all the computers exactly like that... and going to kill Inferno is easiest at first... One thing I can say, not to offend the reds but for analysis... the chains were bad... back when Nella broke the utopia and then went to the city, one could have immediately grabbed the boots of speed... a whirlwind in the Dungeon was very necessary... without it, there's no way... and also, the game was played defensively... I think more activity is needed when having such an advantage in everything...
CONCLUSION—no need to make a mountain out of a molehill... we only ruin everything with our arguments... personally, I play for the thrill... as I think many do... what interest is there in winning after uncovering the map??... because of such arguments on the forum, no normal players will be left.. those who can already be counted on one hand... I think it's worth considering who should be suspected and who shouldn't... after all, we haven't been playing together for just a few days....