[ANNOUNCEMENT] Heroes 3: World Tournament - an add-on for tournament games.

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Loi (15:19:16 9/03/2010)
tested VT yesterday
Loi (14:00:25 9/03/2010)
played up to 127 with Korg
Loi (14:00:47 9/03/2010)
as you understand, I'm a typical SoD player
Loi (14:00:53 9/03/2010)
there are many like that
asm (14:00:57 9/03/2010)
uh-huh
Loi (14:01:01 9/03/2010)
and there will always be many like that
Loi (14:01:22 9/03/2010)
not that I'm a principled supporter of it
Loi (14:01:34 9/03/2010)
it's just that I play to relax
Loi (14:01:42 9/03/2010)
so...
Loi (14:03:11 9/03/2010)
maybe — for faster and, more importantly, long-term success in spreading VT — it's worth working on the SoD front too?
Loi (14:03:34 9/03/2010)
let me explain...
asm (14:03:35 9/03/2010)
well, I plan to make SoD gameplay...
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Loi (14:04:17 9/03/2010)
here, I specifically want to convey the player's feeling...
Loi (14:04:38 9/03/2010)
step into the shoes of a neophyte, so to speak...
Loi (14:05:09 9/03/2010)
so I played yesterday
Loi (14:05:21 9/03/2010)
tried to set everything up like in SoD
Loi (14:05:31 9/03/2010)
only enabled experience
asm (14:05:38 9/03/2010)
> only enabled experience
pointless )
Loi (14:05:44 9/03/2010)
experience is normal
Loi (14:05:54 9/03/2010)
it fits the spirit of the game itself very well
Loi (14:06:20 9/03/2010)
all real players understand this quickly
Loi (14:06:55 9/03/2010)
what annoyed me most was a bunch of small and annoying changes
Loi (14:07:14 9/03/2010)
immediately
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Loi (14:07:57 9/03/2010)
I'm not against these changes at all!
Loi (14:08:23 9/03/2010)
POSSIBLY they are more balanced
Loi (14:08:49 9/03/2010)
I'm against the fact that they are forced upon me in gameplay without alternative
Loi (14:09:17 9/03/2010)
for example — moving DD into water
Loi (14:09:48 9/03/2010)
...(deleted my personal opinion on this, acceptable only in private..)
Loi (14:10:11 9/03/2010)
it would be more competent like this, imho:
Loi (14:10:34 9/03/2010)
basically
asm (14:10:52 9/03/2010)
I made VT based on TE and mainly dealt not with gameplay, but with interface things: easy installation, chat, anti-cheat, simultaneous turns, etc.
Loi (14:11:42 9/03/2010)
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asm (14:11:58 9/03/2010)
I just didn't get around to the gameplay...
Loi (14:12:32 9/03/2010)
is it possible not to touch the gameplay at all (in the base edition)?
Loi (14:13:02 9/03/2010)
and leave "interface things, easy installation, chat, anti-cheat, simultaneous turns, etc."?
asm (14:13:34 9/03/2010)
yes, I want to make a setting with SoD gameplay in the future
Loi (14:13:46 9/03/2010)
clear
Loi (14:13:54 9/03/2010)
imho — that will solve it
Loi (14:14:18 9/03/2010)
I just wanted to warn, although maybe I'm being too cautious
asm (14:14:41 9/03/2010)
actually, even now if you disable everything, what remains significant is:
- balance of magic schools
- altered Heroes
Loi (14:14:43 9/03/2010)
there is and will be a surge of interest in VT right now, which I'm very glad about!
Loi (14:15:05 9/03/2010)
- balance of magic schools
- altered Heroes

Loi (14:15:22 9/03/2010)
is this hard-coded without alternative?
asm (14:15:35 9/03/2010)
currently, yes
Loi (14:15:38 9/03/2010)
understand — this is much more annoying
Loi (14:15:49 9/03/2010)
than the same experience
Loi (14:16:07 9/03/2010)
this is exactly a gameplay change
asm (14:16:13 9/03/2010)
but I'm telling you that I plan to make SoD gameplay as a setting
Loi (14:16:18 9/03/2010)
clear
Loi (14:16:23 9/03/2010)
one last thing
Loi (14:17:37 9/03/2010)
there is and will be a surge of interest in VT right now, which I'm very glad about! It's important not to spill or blow this moment — and the same "make SoD gameplay as a setting" should ideally be done as quickly as possible, imho
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Loi (14:18:52 9/03/2010)
moreover — CLEARLY declare (I will help if my help is needed) that EVERYTHING there is the same as in SoD (in base settings) + goodies!
Loi (14:19:32 9/03/2010)
the main thing is not to scare people away with a bunch of changed parameters
Loi (14:19:49 9/03/2010)
I set almost everything like in SoD
Loi (14:20:14 9/03/2010)
but I got a bit lost yesterday
Loi (14:20:19 9/03/2010)
in strategy
asm (14:21:43 9/03/2010)
...there was a comment from asm here, positive but irrelevant to the matter and concerning a third party — I took the liberty of deleting it :)
Loi (14:22:17 9/03/2010)
1 searched through a bunch of shrines with a couple of scouts — looking for slow))
2 didn't account for the fact that Experience allows for a relatively earlier transition to treasure hunting
Loi (14:22:24 9/03/2010)
I haven't even lost yet))
asm (14:22:35 9/03/2010)
)
Loi (14:22:47 9/03/2010)
I showed my mistakes as an example of typical blunders
asm (14:22:51 9/03/2010)
you can rebuild the Mages' Guild
Loi (14:23:04 9/03/2010)
that's normal
Loi (14:23:13 9/03/2010)
that's an over-gameplay thing
Loi (14:23:22 9/03/2010)
like anti-cheat
Loi (14:23:29 9/03/2010)
even like experience
Loi (14:23:35 9/03/2010)
but — the change in magic
Loi (14:23:42 9/03/2010)
and heroes
Loi (14:23:53 9/03/2010)
imho — wrong from the point of view of successful implementation
asm (14:24:03 9/03/2010)
so, only the change in magic doesn't suit you?
Loi (14:24:15 9/03/2010)
wrong conclusion
Loi (14:24:29 9/03/2010)
not "me", as in Loi personally
Loi (14:24:45 9/03/2010)
I'm generally tolerant of changes in principle
Loi (14:24:59 9/03/2010)
but a typical SoD player...
Loi (14:25:47 9/03/2010)
"only the change in magic?" — everything that changes gameplay, including the change in magic
Loi (14:31:30 9/03/2010)
it's all for you to decide, of course
Loi (14:32:28 9/03/2010)
I also just want the idea of VT as a single standard to get widespread adoption
Loi (14:32:48 9/03/2010)
for this, everyone must make many compromises, I believe
Loi (14:33:15 9/03/2010)
I'm just trying to convey the feelings and moods of many players
Loi (14:33:25 9/03/2010)
that's why we are discussing all this
Loi (14:33:48 9/03/2010)
yesterday — 6-7 people watched this game of mine
Loi (14:34:36 9/03/2010)
many have initial interest now — let's not scare them off...
Loi (14:34:56 9/03/2010)
so right now, give it to them — here is your SoD
Loi (14:35:27 9/03/2010)
and let VT be above TE and SoD
Loi (14:36:09 9/03/2010)
imho — this is most relevant right now
Loi (14:36:32 9/03/2010)
if, of course, there's a desire to sharply expand the area of distribution...
Loi (14:37:24 9/03/2010)
sorry that it's a bit haphazard
Loi (14:37:43 9/03/2010)
no time to write more concisely)
asm (14:39:58 9/03/2010)
and it seems to me that SoD gameplay is of course a good thing, but primary...
I think a few small changes in gameplay shouldn't scare people away,
it's much more important to make a convenient place for the game: where a person could easily find an opponent, easily configure and start the game, play a full match in minimum time without detriment to the game, register a victory, chat with other heroes....
and the implementation of SoD gameplay seems to me as a way to complete and round out the picture
asm (14:41:50 9/03/2010)
for example, there's an idea (and I've already dug up material for implementation) to replace Hamachi, i.e., my server will also replace VPN...
asm (14:42:39 9/03/2010)
and this is especially important for beginners... because if beginners don't come, then sooner or later it will all wither away...
Loi (14:45:59 9/03/2010)
if beginners don't come,
Loi (14:46:08 9/03/2010)
key factor, yeah
Loi (14:46:33 9/03/2010)
that's exactly why I tried to convey the feelings of a neophyte....
Loi (14:47:04 9/03/2010)
to help somehow in this noble cause)
asm (14:47:09 9/03/2010)
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Loi (14:47:10 9/03/2010)
in that
Loi (14:47:43 9/03/2010)
let me know when you make the SoD gameplay?
asm (14:47:50 9/03/2010)
ok
Loi (14:48:00 9/03/2010)
you could immediately make a wide tournament on ХВ as well
Loi (14:48:19 9/03/2010)
I'll run the same sergeant one on it, by the way)
asm (14:48:30 9/03/2010)
good
Loi (14:48:34 9/03/2010)
ok