Appeals Committee. Disputed situations in tournaments.

Zhenya, why ban just one?
Let's ban both of them again, why are they starting a kindergarten here?
Revolutionaries, damn it.
I think you did the wrong thing here.

And why two? I, for example, didn't insult him, and generally speaking, my posts haven't been about him for a long time... I said everything earlier and my opinion hasn't changed.
A revolutionary? ...call me what you want - but Pit deleted my completely harmless bridge post... so it turns out he kept one of his most successful posts, asked me a bunch of questions personally, and deleted the answers without any justification... there was no profanity there, no insults either... there was the real TRUTH about Pit and the AC... which, unfortunately for him, cuts deeper than profanity... I'll restore the post now...

Pit for LMYes, here are the logs:
Alex_R ?(01/07/2009 23:51):
Good evening... today we connected and played both of his restarts and one of mine... we decided to postpone until tomorrow since it's late... if anything, we might play it fully tomorrow or at worst finish it the day after tomorrow.
We communicated, yes. But where is the info that you couldn't come to an agreement? Here it says that everything is fine between you. There were also no requests from Vitalik about an agreement.
Where is the lie?

The lie is that I kept you informed when there was something to say, and when we couldn't play, yes I didn't write to you, but I never promised to do that.
But you forgot these logs, they change the picture a bit (I've already shown them):
Pit (23:31:43 2/07/2009)
hello! postponed?
Alex (23:32:04 2/07/2009)
well yes, he can only until 12 - and we already sat until half past midnight
Alex (23:32:19 2/07/2009)
one or two more sessions when it gets going

From these it follows that you are aware that the game is going tough and dragging on, and that we'll finish in a couple of sessions "when it gets going", to which you yourself replied
Pit (23:33:23 2/07/2009)
there's still time
What was the point of me writing in the following days if we didn't sit down due to Vitalik's fault... I waited for him until the deadline and on Monday morning at work around 9:00 AM we discussed it all, when I described the situation to you. This should have been a warning bell for you, and a responsible organizer would have asked the opponent (Vitalik) before setting the final result, "is it true that it's your fault you didn't finish in time?"... if needed, would have demanded and compared the logs... or even passed this question to the AC with info from both of us... or at the very least, being lazy, would have just told me "sorry, I'm busy, submit a request to the AC and attach all the info."
But no, you and Dirty decided to give us zeros definitively?
But I didn't believe the result and didn't accept it, yet I didn't personally submit to the AC either. I played the last round that same day because the draw was announced, and on the 7th and 8th I continued pestering Vitalik to play. I WANTED TO PLAY... I gave a promise that I would play the tour, give me time, and I APPROACHED IT CONSCIENTIOUSLY, but you write that I'm a liar.

And I don't understand what you're trying to achieve.

Explain, please, what you want. If you don't know what you want yourself, then why should I want to sort it out?

Well damn....:smile35:
1) so that, following the example of how we just sorted this situation out, all similar situations would be sorted out (conscientiously and fairly), it's foolish to hope there won't be more of them.
naturally, this is done in a special closed section and without extra eyes, because we see what happens.
2) an adequate, fair.... in short, a normal decision was made.
3) I didn't get an apology from you because of pride or something, but at least admit that with the "zeros" and the subsequent post accusing me of deception, you unjustly slandered me, approached the decision dishonestly, indirectly forced me to piece everything together myself, and also made me look like a fool, who, through your own fault, is being "scolded" by people not involved in the matter. Moreover, they're not writing anything substantial, only phrases like
"Alex is rambling"
"gibberish"
"blackmail with night games"
"everyone who wanted to - played"
By the way, it's very telling that Zhenya, without reading the entire thread, moderated according to the forum rules, because lately moderators and others with positions delve so deeply into protecting their personal interests and motives that they forget the simple forum rules... and as a result, they don't delete posts they like that violate forum rules, and conversely, they delete completely harmless posts that simply contradict their opinions.