A topic for endless love and adoration.

Yeah, Ukrainians and Russians are still brothers, even though they're having some strange disagreements right now... It's a bad thing... just like in the times of feudal fragmentation. Kyiv was the mother of Russian cities :p This was after the Golden Horde started raiding, and the Livonian Order (Lithuania) took control of these territories... and in general, Kyiv was gradually forgotten due to endless conflicts. But Moscow started flattering the Khan, and in return, they gained the right to collect tribute and started getting rich. In general, this process is still happening, it seems the mentality is still from those times.