In general, we were not talking about quality, but about primitiveness, and I didn't start this conversation. It's obvious that metal is not primitive, especially in our time.
Beethoven, by the way, showed that he could do complex things. Quality should be judged by the beauty of the composition. I don't see that in pop music, with the exception of ABBA.
You can only draw such a conclusion from my post. In general, no, to express an opinion, it is enough to have ears; it's just that a musician understands this better because he knows how it's done.
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up
There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis