Tactics for Dungeon.

Seryy, you've gone too far here. Minotaurs have the best stats for a tier 5. Excellent fighters. BUT!

Tol, I said that with a bit of sarcasm regarding the minotaurs. From what I remember, I only put cats on the first [week] a few times (there were their external dwellings). In most cases, I always put minos in the citadel+portal+troglodyte growth etc. IMHO, why do you even need those cats if minotaurs are cheaper and have almost the same stats? When there is a minotaur external dwelling, that's also a kind of cheat. I remember a party I had where on 131 I had nearly fifty minos (external dwelling and native Castle). That's no less of a cheat, but still, Shakti's piercing power from the start is better... As for my words, I meant that if there's no money to feast in the Dragon Utopia, or simply not enough meat, and the utopia must be taken specifically on this turn, then to save the striking stack of troglodytes, you can take minotaurs. 300+ troglodytes are more useful than 15 minos, agree!

tried taking the utopia on 3 today as well, basically fine but on this same map a miner would have taken it in 1 week maximum 2, which is a bit concerning

I don't like baseless statements. Taking the utopia on the first week on SM templates is an indicator of the highest mastery. If you take the statistics of the world's best players, taking utopias in the 1st week on random maps is quite a rarity (of course, I don't mean lol templates like Jebus Cross :D). First try to take the utopia at least by the third week with any Castle!!!

but if I hadn't messed up and forgotten to build the second guild then on 142 I could have properly met the miner with a normal army of 4 blacks and others fine) which probably wouldn't have been torn apart by 600 troglodytes

Before you start playing and arguing, read physmig and sit down and calculate the damage with a calculator considering this or that situation. In my party described above, 533 trogs wiped out a stack of 8 green dragons in one hit. So your 4 BD (I doubt you would have had 4 BD on 142 in a real online party) would have folded in one hit :).

and +- 20 troglodytes is not that critical

Believe me, even +- 5 troglodytes matters ;)

why then on 121 even in the first week 3 minis in the army compensate for the lack of troglodytes

3 minos on the first [week] is nothing :). I'm saying again, just read about damage mathematics. What can you do with 3 minotaurs in a conserve? A miner is capable, even in the worst-case scenario, of taking a conserve of 2 angels without losses on the first week!!! By the time you get 3 minotaurs, Shakti will have already picked up two or three (or even more) angels.

I'll try to prove it online later

Well, I'm already waiting for you to authorize me so we can finally play! Otherwise, over time, I lose the desire to argue about nothing and listen to words confirmed by nothing.