Which subject is more important: mathematics or language?

It's pointless to explain... I've already brought up similar points so many times... I'm glad that at least someone else sees this argument in a reasonable light because my opponent is completely stuck in their ways... and I said from the very beginning that I, as a mathematician, was shocked by the topic and how absurd the argument is... but no one reacted... I still have arguments, but I just don't have time to type out this nonsense again... Well, Loken, and you were upset that I put a lot of laughing emoticons... it makes me laugh too :D

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I couldn't help but smile while reading. All of this, on the contrary, is the future. The future lies in science. In the exact sciences, darling. All new and new inventions and modifications of old ones.

You know, Loken, the only thing that really annoys me is when

they call me "darling"... I usually punch people in the face in real life for saying that, and I asked you not to call me that...

Even without knowing the language, you will still survive. In the city, in the forest - it doesn't matter where. Just remember hermits, residents of tiny villages, migrant workers, homeless people... but none of them can live without knowing the basics of mathematics. A hermit will not be able to calculate the amount of wood to be harvested for the winter, a migrant worker and a vagrant will not know how much money they have and what they can buy with it, a villager will never build a shed without knowing numbers and concepts of basic geometry, will never harvest a crop without knowing how many days have passed, how many months until winter, how many months it takes for a particular crop to mature.

Logic, rationalism (yes, again), ingenuity, the ability to identify what is needed, to distinguish one thing from another, to set a goal, to make a plan, and to follow it, and much, much more - this is mathematics. This is the very essence of the human mind. You may not know programming codes or Newton's binomial formula, but you will always be able to distinguish a sphere from a cube, you will always be able to add one to another and figure out what will happen. Because all of this is mathematics.
That's it.

What is this nonsense... how can I not understand mathematics if I am a mathematician myself... where is your vaunted logic... and I don't perceive it as a subject in school, because I studied at the Faculty of Cybernetics at the university for a whole year before finally deciding to switch to a creative profession... because it is more vibrant...

trade, money, negotiations (yes, again logic), architecture, education, industry, advertising, art, corporations, agencies, show business, militarism, healthcare - everywhere, everywhere there is a significant amount of mathematics.

Exactly, just a "SHARE"... guess what the other share is? :rolleyes: In advertising, art, and show business, I'm not going to agree, the main thing is money and the right creative approach... and our healthcare doesn't heal more people, but cripples them because they are most concerned with extracting money for medicines in a mathematically progressive manner... in Moscow, I was almost killed in a private central hospital once...

In general, hermits are most often philosophers who have withdrawn from civilization for contemplation and solitude... and the ripening of crops has been determined by solstices and river floods since ancient times... grain crops have always been determined by eye... and about the rest... any knowledge can be passed down by inheritance, and even if a person has never studied any mathematical sciences, but in childhood they were shown the essence, they will always be able to repeat it... so what kind of shed is this :D they measured logs with their elbows...

Further, there is a text that is similar to the argument about which came first, the chicken or the egg, without any visible explanations... + you have rephrased and presented this proof for the tenth time... animals also communicate with sounds, but they don't know mathematics...

I won't even talk about logic and rationalism - first, understand their meaning... it's just impossible... you perceive them abstractly... you can also distinguish a sphere from a cube with imaginative thinking - and so what???

That's it.

How so???