Football!

1. There are rules for playing football and FIFA/UEFA guidelines. Everything else is from the devil.

2. Have you seen a coach who said that the penalty against his team was definitely a mistake?:eek:



Hold on - pause. It seems we're talking about different episodes. I was talking about the fact that (as it seemed to me) during that attack, in the scramble near the penalty area, the ball bounced off someone's hand from Bayern.
During the shot on goal (when it went past the defender and the goalkeeper who came out (what was he doing there:confused: )), there was no hand. This happened 5-7 seconds later.

I suggest we return to this episode later (on Sunday), when I have the opportunity to watch the match again and review all the controversial moments.

So far, humanity has not been very successful in writing rules and laws that do not allow for dual interpretations; otherwise, lawyers would be in trouble.
But I haven't read the modern recommendations myself; maybe you are right according to them, but then the officials have serious problems with common sense.

Yes, many times, if the penalty is really obvious.

Yes, there's no point in going back; I'm saying that I'm not very sure about this episode, and even with a strong desire, it would have been difficult for the referee to navigate in that chaos. After the match, there was just a feeling of not very good refereeing, and it cannot be removed by analyzing individual moments, although maybe many people want Zenit to go further. Be that as it may, everything will be decided in St. Petersburg, and that's not so bad. Good luck, guys!

P.S. If I understand correctly, you follow Ukrainian football; maybe you also watch matches of the Ukrainian national team. I just remembered the match Ukraine - Croatia in Kyiv, in 1997. If anyone watched it, they will remember the lawlessness that the referee created against the "yellow-blue" team, but can anyone remember when a club (national team) from Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, etc. was so favored? My memory doesn't recall that.

I agree. I think the most wonderful refereeing in our favor was the refereeing in the replay of a match between some Austrian club and Lokomotiv, when the Austrians were trying to defeat Lokomotiv, which was simply devastated by the most unfair and unique decision to replay the return match. There, the referee judged fairly and even sent off one Austrian player to make it easier for Lokomotiv, although, to be honest, he could have not sent him off.
But I have almost no complaints about yesterday's refereeing. There was a penalty. Only Ricken is to blame. He didn't assess the situation at all. Ze Roberto no longer posed any threat at that moment. The rest is minor. Yes, Arshavin and Faizullin could have been spared yellow cards, and yellow cards could have been shown to a couple of Bayern players. But this is quite within the margin of error for fair refereeing in favor of the home team. There is no conspiracy. Moreover, Michel is definitely more connected with us now. He often referees important matches in the Russian championship.