Dialogues with Moderators

First, I suggest everyone follow the link below http://forum.heroesworld.ru/showgroups.php?only_moderators; without it, further reading of this post will lose its meaning.

This is, as you have already seen, the "Open statistics of moderators' work (Automatically updated every hour)," which is in plain sight for everyone, but apparently few notice it. It's better to keep it open in a neighboring window; it will come in handy.

Now we can begin responding to the post by Alex_R and Adelaide.

I don't deny that there are moderators who perform all their duties excellently, and some who perform them poorly, but most moderators handle their duties, albeit with delays or shortcomings.

we have moderators for cleaning the forum (most of whom are very responsible and conscientious people)

vbn, congratulations to you; not only are they speaking about you in the plural, but you've also cleared the ENTIRE forum of everything.
But seriously, we see that one person is working (who, by the way, was appointed as a mod not so long ago, but has already achieved more than many). And such a state of affairs allows us to question the competence and knowledge of forum matters of the two people who posted. Perhaps they could go through, for example, the section for 5 and see if there are no duplicate threads? flood in threads? off-topic? Or is it possible that some actually exist? And what about the "excellent work of mods who delete everything"? Or is that "delay" measured in months, and "shortcomings" refer to duplicate threads?
Or is this the usual glorification of HW, while everyone remains silent about how things actually are, and anyone who tries to speak out is immediately cast into same disfavor—and you're lucky if it's not a ban. By the way, the beginning of this thread shows how effective this policy is, since people were discussing the appointment of a third coordinator and didn't even suspect the dismal state of affairs in the moderator workshop.

Well then, let's try to continue responding.

I had the opportunity recently to become a moderator - but I refused, because the level of moderation has always suited me, both before and now.

Excuse me, even when from September 2006! until recently we didn't have a SINGLE mod in 3???? This is called "suited me"; well then, all questions to you are settled...
To Alex_R P.S.

even respect is no longer visible (judging by the latest posts).

A very correct observation; perhaps because of the kind of people appointed recently, such posts have followed? Even more so, for some reason it's not "people" but one specific coordinator, Adelaide—I have no complaints about others.

And right here is another very correct phrase, the meaning of which everyone seems to have forgotten...

Respect to moderators

like Alan and Kyle - but where are they now!?!?

Exactly MODERATORS. I was a MODERATOR, and to any attempts to accuse me of spending time deleting flood etc., I can tell them to read the Moderator Rules; you'll probably learn a lot of new things about their duties. And the "super" prefix gave me rights over the entire forum.
Now let's move to another post, but we'll continue talking about moderators.

I will note that I am specifically engaged in coordination

mmm coordination of what?? let's read the moderator rules, since the link is slightly above. And pay special attention to point 12. Then look at the mod statistics (I hope it's still open) and we see that there are about five people who should have already been stripped of their rights. Why then does the coordinator ignore this? And in general, again, the statistics show a brilliant "coordination" of other mods, which, given the obvious mess in some sections, is surprising. Why haven't they been warned? And if they have, then those warnings were clearly ignored, and then more severe sanctions should be taken. You love doing this to users who are displeasing to you (by the way, "you" is an address to a little-known person, no need to ask back "we as in me and who?"), but you're not in any hurry to do it regarding violators whom you sympathize with.

What's next? ah yes...

and not writing text like "think with your head, work with your hands, look for such threads via search, stupid forum users, the moderators are goats and haven't cleaned the thread for TWO days" in a flood thread

hmm then why were neither the flood thread nor this message deleted, just like the 3rd off-topic one from another user? But they deleted my response to that person, which contained an unpleasant truth about the forum administration. However, when it came time to answer for their words and actions, the thread was quickly physically removed so that no one could find traces (and stupidly I screenshotted the messages anyway. Only the creator doesn't care about the truth; he covers his "god-like" ones). By the way, physical deletion makes it difficult to prove exactly how I phrased my response, since your quote in quotation marks is clearly far from the truth.

deleting flood simply DOES NOT FALL under the coordinator's duties

Could you provide a link to the coordinator rules and their duties? That would immediately settle a mass of questions. Because all I found was about mods and newsmakers. Or do they consist of two classic points, where "2. If not right, see point 1"?

Luchik, it is very strange to hear from you as an experienced organizer a claim of equal comparison between organizing two off-line events a year and organizing a series of online tournaments for 3, organizing the FIRST joint tournament, when friendly resources don't just report to you on someone's prompting (think about whose) but when you have to establish contacts yourself and agree on terms; also through my coordinator activity I achieved significant correction of the Regulations on Clans in ХВ, which for some reason the coordinator whose place I took had not done before, although this topic was in limbo for almost a year (who knows, maybe it wasn't as important for him as, for example, deleting a flood thread that a specific section moderator could also delete), well anyway enough, because I am not used to beating my chest about my merits; those who need to know already know, and if they don't, well, it doesn't matter.

Well, Kyle has already replied here that cheap showing off in the form of a carelessly uttered phrase "about a couple of tournaments," said for the newcomers of this forum, is a fall from grace in the eyes of those who know how it actually was. Mmm regulations on clans... hmmm and it seemed to me that most of the work, as well as the mass creation of threads on this issue, was done by Raper. And again, you came to my place as coordinator? The one I held for ten days? Honestly, playing to the crowd, and with such pathetic music, does not flatter you.

point your finger at me

We are pointing, per your request... posts in this same thread numbers 98 and 101 where it is clearly written that you were approached, but you did not deign to help. And yet this is the 3 online tournaments section, whose merits and protection you "point" to everywhere.

And practically at the very end.

that's probably how one should work, rather than winning flood-awards, or engaging in stupid tattling and reporting.

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Is it really true that one should work as described above?
Winning flood-awards. This is apparently a reproach to me, not Alucard... Well of course, I created such a thread myself, campaigned for voting in it myself, and probably bribed the most persistent ones, while physically deleting posts of those who refused to cooperate. Perhaps this will surprise you, but that was the position of ordinary forum users, whom no one forced anywhere.
And about stupidity... Indeed, this is a very convenient position. When a coordinator performs unlawful actions, in theory there is only one option (since discussing things openly on our forum is forbidden after separate incidents with Hacker etc.), which is to contact the Creator with a request to resolve the situation, while being ready to provide all necessary evidence of the coordinator's guilt. But then it turns out that this is "tattling and reporting"... A devilishly convenient position: you don't have to answer for anything, do whatever you want, no one will call you to account anyway.
Therefore, I apologize to all users whom I ever advised to take disputes to the administration—IT'S ALL NONSENSE! No one will do anything for you; you are already guilty in the situation simply because your nickname color is plain, not blue/green.

P.S. I hope that I didn't waste so many letters in vain and someone extracts something useful from all the above.

P.S.S. I didn't touch upon the topic of the remark in my profile, although I could have answered a lot there too. But with that situation, I thought it necessary to deal with it according to all the rules of this forum; in the end *poof* and then banal ignoring.