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heee as already noted above - a conflict between clans is when one clan suspects a player from another clan of unfair play, etc... (since clans are theoretically only intersecting in inter-clan games (or some other Competitive events)) but RUDENESS between forum members is a matter for the moderators.

As I understand it, the LZMS itself was created exactly under such conditions (disputes over inter-clan games) and therefore one of its goals was the settlement of disputes between clans. The last clan war took place sometime in the summer (during the 7th stage of the WC for the second heroes), so this goal is not particularly relevant (and you are arguing over nothing)....BUT ...LZMS has other goals - specifically the coordination of clan actions. This is exactly why LZMS invites ALL clans to join the community .... and put forward their suggestions and wishes (not for empty chatter, but for discussion at the level of Clan Leaders)

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RAPER;137295
sorry please I didn't ask permission from you, O great one :smile41: :smile41: :smile41: :smile41: :smile25:

.... as I already said - if something doesn't suit you.. no one is keeping you here.... personally, everything suits us.. both LZMS and GI, the clan system, tournaments.. etc...... but for some reason, everything is wrong for you... you see, you're being oppressed.. where, in what place??? please show me!!!!!!!!!!!


Well, how can you say they aren't being oppressed!!? Ask Nemizida what he went through while creating the Knights of the Apocalypse clan (how much and what was said to him)? And remember how YOURS was created!
Is there a difference?

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RAPER;137311
And also Gentlemen, what is this LZMS for?
that's where you should have started;);)... read the charter.. only carefully;)

ps that's it .. until tomorrow.. I honestly don't understand .. why do you hate LZMS so fiercely?? Fine with kj1313 and their ilk (they are a separate conversation).. I don't get it..
There is such a principle in some sciences ... it's called the principle of simplicity

it's a pity that you cannot SIMPLY explain for yourself what LZMS is for, and instead refer to the charter.

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RAPER;137406

but then the question is - why have clans if there is no body capable of managing and controlling them...??????7 LZMS is such a body.. yes, let this body be not entirely perfect.. but everything can be finalized through common conclusions....

Accordingly, then why the hell do we need LZMS if there is no body capable of managing and coordinating it? :) this is a joke question!

I didn't understand you at all here, what "management" of clans are we talking about? Why manage them? They were created specifically to be independent cells.

There can be no talk of managing clans, only of coordination; everything else related to clan management is written in the forum rules.

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Tengro;137551
I'll answer too:)
5) LZMS is a body of SELF-government and democratization. If it deviates from this path, I will be the first to declare war on the pseudo-League.

And again. HOW DOES LZMS BOTHER YOU?
In detail, as a list, in writing. Then there will be something to talk about.
Otherwise, you're sinking to the level of "nakhtritters."

But it has already deviated, specifically the SELF-government; the LZMS Leader self-governs however he wants (because some don't care, others are "friends" with him)... and I've been suggesting for a long time: return to the original structure, LZMS should have 3 elected Secretaries. Then there wouldn't be these frictions between the RA and EPN clans (well, they would be, of course, but at a different level and in a different way).

LZMS doesn't bother anyone, but one should ask oneself: should it help? Otherwise, it turns out we created it and are just sitting and waiting for everyone to come begging us so that we could (as RAPPER said) "manage" them.

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TOTAL: the topic is going nowhere, it's like "talking to a brick wall"

RA is attacking the personalities of TAKO and RAPPER, and LZMS has absolutely nothing to do with it!!!
Tengro and RAPPER themselves don't know what they are defending...

now, so that you don't misunderstand me, I'll add

I am not defending the RA clan, I am strongly against the fact that Nemizida used profanity in his posts and aggression against the EPN leaders, which is what started the conflict; it's just a vivid example, likewise I am against attacks on newcomers by the EPN leaders.

leave LZMS alone (the body is not to blame :) that its leaders don't quite understand what it's for), it has nothing to do with this, make peace among yourselves to your heart's content and let's finally cooperate closely within the framework of LZMS, for this, you need to join LZMS and collectively vote for a return to the original structure, as there are already enough clans

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SoulDrinker;137555
I suggest the following:
1. First, we need to convince all the "nakhtritters" to join LZMS (so that there are no questions later). For this, LZMS must make concessions and reconcile those who are fighting (like official apologies and such)
2. The charter needs to be reviewed (not changed - reviewed).
3. In general, there's no need to quarrel

that's all for now!!!!
P.S.: if there is peace thanks to LZMS, then, I believe, "Haven" and the like will join it.

Golden words :) my post says the same thing, but you are a master of rhetoric :)
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