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Regarding the editor, I'd give it a 10, but they're not worth taking at all, and in comparison, they are much stronger than regular level 8 units. However, the Rusty one is weakened in version 0.58 to level 7. So, it's slightly stronger than the Black one. As for the commander, he also has a level, and at level 8, he probably won't be able to defeat a level 7 unit that hasn't been upgraded.
