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Heh, it's a perfect example of what I've been writing about all these pages. A creepy guy, with a stretch, a 3 (WITH A STRETCH, meaning a 2 could have been given) turns into a potentially adequate partner))) No, most women will have the same first impression as you. Maybe if the photo was better, you would have given him a 4, but that's that.
I would say the photo itself is just bad. In real life, the guy probably looks okay.
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They might not consider him for a relationship, I won't argue, but many will consider him as a father for their children.
Well, yes, everyone just dreams of meeting a handsome stranger, sleeping with him, getting pregnant, and then being a single mother. And then, for the rest of their lives, desperately looking for a new father for their child, hoping that some loser will agree and accept her with the child)
Just in case, if someone doesn't know, I'll share a scary news — it doesn't happen like that)
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After 30, with an RSP who suffered terribly from cursed narcissists (number 2), and then, realizing it by the age of 30, she decided to become childfree and marry a number 5)
I won't argue that women who hang out with various alpha males (not necessarily appearance number 2, some are attracted to very rude, self-confident crocodiles) until they are 30-40, and then look for a modest Vovk-nerd with unwashed hair, greasy pants, and a t-shirt, but who doesn't drink, has a decent salary, and, if he's lucky, has his own apartment (I'm not saying that number 5 is like that, I'm giving an exaggerated example at your level), so that she can live off him, and ideally, have a child with him if she gets pregnant. I'll say something surprising and scary — some women who hang out have enough brains to still use contraception while they hang out with "alpha males".

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Of course, there will be, but this won't stop many, ESPECIALLY if he shows attention, then all fears will instantly disappear.
I would say that it's individual and largely depends on what priorities a girl sets for herself. If she's easy, wants adventure, or just doesn't care — easily. If a girl is aiming for a serious relationship, she will be very careful with such a guy. Plus, there's the question of self-esteem, one will have a romance with him, thinking "Of course, I'm awesome, he definitely won't leave such a goddess," while another, with low self-esteem for various reasons, will ask herself: "Why did he pay attention to me? Am I not too good for him? Does he have some ulterior motive?"
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Yes, I'm saying that it's about freedom. But we're not randomly poking around. It's all based on appearance, then everything else.
If I didn't know several real-life examples of people who weren't initially interested in each other in terms of appearance, but after a long time of friendship and communication, they realized that there was no better life partner, I would agree. According to these people, over time, what repelled them at the beginning, they now find to be an attractive quirk. On the other hand, I definitely won't deny that for many, appearance plays a decisive role at the initial stage, and it's not always enough to be beautiful. But in general, it's not just the face that influences the final choice, and it's not always enough to be beautiful.
I can only say that I know a girl who, at one time, left a handsome guy from a wealthy family, who later became an even more successful entrepreneur in the city with a great income, simply because at some point she realized that he "smells somehow wrong." Like, yes, he's great in every way, the guy of her dreams, she even admitted that it was great with him, but she couldn't stand his natural smell.
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Zoomers don't want "normal" guys because they see that there are few chances, not only for an "elf," but even for someone JUST LIKE them. And she will be with the same hang-ups as him, a basket case, immature, living with her parents. And the "normal" guy won't even be against it. He is ready to put up with it, they are ready to put up with more (Yes, many are tired of this, hence the incels, MGTOW, and others, but there are still many who will put up with it). But the other side doesn't want to put up with it)) The other side would rather be second or third with an "elf" than first with a "normal" guy, be an RSP, be alone, etc. And it's perfectly clear why, because of the biological reasons that I wrote about and you agreed with below. Women make the selection, "normal" guys are rejected, the end.
I can't judge all Zoomers, but those I know personally are not looking for an "elf," but don't want to deal with "trophy wives" and girls who are looking for serious relationships. They all have the same "I want to live for myself." And they also "don't want to work for someone else" and want a life like in Instagram and TikTok. Something like "Why can they afford luxury at my age, and I can't?" And all this love, boobs, etc., is simply uninteresting to them.

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The other side would rather be second or third with an "elf" than first with a "normal" guy, be an RSP, be alone, etc. And it's perfectly clear why, because of the biological reasons that I wrote about and you agreed with below. Women make the selection, "normal" guys are rejected, the end.
Perhaps I'll make a discovery for someone — many girls don't want to be someone's first or for their first to be a guy without experience, because there is a very high probability of failure in bed. Girls without experience (and sometimes even with experience, lol) are just logs who lie down and wait for the alpha male to do everything for them. They don't know what's best for them, they're not interested in figuring it out, they want "magic, like in a romantic movie." And God forbid it hurts or something doesn't work, this girl will be blown away by the guy and she will scream that sex is only for guys.
At the same time, a guy without experience may simply not be able to get it up because of stress. And if, in the moment, instead of a competent partner who can support her, he encounters a log or, worse, a psycho who makes fun of him, the guy will develop such wild complexes that in the future he will turn into a complete omega or asexual. Even if before the failure he looked very good, he will no longer be interested in chasing girls, and all this sex, which is a very important part of relationships, will no longer be interesting to him.
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