I would like to see the persimmon tree.

dwarves are needed, but romances are not necessarily
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Well, you've really gone overboard here... I'll have to chime in too.
Let's start with the fact that I was responding to a statement about Lok. And by "losers," I meant him specifically. And the "joke" was that he wasn't a loser, even though he did have a lot of consoles and books. I don't know what the others were like as children, nor do I know what they did. Maybe they were tormenting dogs, or maybe something else. I only know that Ney and Koshi's fathers "trained" them on PCs from childhood, and PCs are better than consoles.