Ad aspera

During the conversation, a stout man in rich clothes asks him:
-- You tell it so smoothly. But tell me this: one person struggled with hunger and died. Another decided to fight the thirst for money, lost his business, his property, and his good name, and it all went to some scoundrel who doesn't even believe in gods. So, where is your good in that? If you live like that, half will go bankrupt, the other half will rest, and the one who wants money, food, and to sleep with a woman will win. And he wants it and gets it.

A young man, about twenty years old, neatly groomed and dressed in simple clothes but with a dagger, asks:
-- I think I didn't understand the most important thing from your speech. What is virtue: not having desires, or suppressing desires? If you don't have them, then there is no virtue in deeds – even stones don't have desires. And if there is a desire, then, according to you, the soul is already corrupted, and there is no salvation?

-- Yes, there is enough in the hearts, but there is definitely not enough in the stomach... Sir, could you spare some bread? -- one of the beggars asked, and the other supported him. -- Yes, you save people, so what about us? Are we not people?