Граф Орлов
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Usually, it's the same thing, but if, let's say, a hypothetical "dindarets" decides to move permanently to Turan with his wife and young child, then the kid, who has seen nothing but Turanian customs since early childhood, and who has only heard from his father about rowing and fighting in pointless island wars, will learn not tales of seafaring, but the Turanian culture that surrounds him every day, and will gain +he and +they.
However, if a hypothetical Akhraimar youth goes with his jarl to raid Fendrin, and the entire warband gets badly beaten by the locals, and he is the only one left, then even if they take pity on him and offer him a job, he will still remain a Northerner, no matter how hard he tries to integrate into the new society. He has lived long enough for the concept to be ingrained in his mind that life is when it's cold, when the village has ten people, and the only entertainment is waiting for the local jarl to launch a new expedition. This is ingrained in him, and even if he is knighted, he will still be an Akhraimar.
However, if a hypothetical Akhraimar youth goes with his jarl to raid Fendrin, and the entire warband gets badly beaten by the locals, and he is the only one left, then even if they take pity on him and offer him a job, he will still remain a Northerner, no matter how hard he tries to integrate into the new society. He has lived long enough for the concept to be ingrained in his mind that life is when it's cold, when the village has ten people, and the only entertainment is waiting for the local jarl to launch a new expedition. This is ingrained in him, and even if he is knighted, he will still be an Akhraimar.