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Frozensoull
It is certainly necessary to defend this position, but is it necessary to start an "inquisition"?
I don't think I am doing that; you know very well that I always try to communicate and resolve the situation peacefully. I’m just saying that it would be great if I wasn’t the only one doing it.
Gerter
Well, what can I say? Keep making your mods, frameworks, games, and development programs too, as long as those damned Westerners don't steal them. Or what are these conversations even about? Is this the essence of a troublemaker and copyright infringer?

The problem is that no matter how much we create ourselves, users like you will see it as the merit of other people.
And what do “Westerners” have to do with it anyway? In short, is this all how I seem from the outside? A troublemaker – a “copyright infringer”?

Perhaps I am wasting my time protecting the interests of modders, trying to negotiate something with Remix or moderators of groups, now trying to get in touch with Dreadnaut. Maybe you are right, maybe I should just give up: “the barn has burned down, let the house burn too.” Maybe Footman is right, and our community is too inactive to do anything worthwhile.
Maybe it’s worth giving up on this damn 5th installment modding altogether, and maybe it’s time for me to do so.

At least I have less and less strength to prove anything to anyone.
And the impression that everyone is happy with the current state of affairs is growing stronger: one by one, talented modders "throw everything away," while large mod collections become popular at their expense; only 2.5 people hang out in our forum, while thematic VKontakte groups show some activity with at least a hundred people, but we don't have people with real skills, only tons of pretentiousness. It seems to me that everyone is fine with things as they are, and this is an unpleasant feeling. If you want changes, everyone will have to work together.

But the conversation was precisely about finding common ground between people – not prohibiting the use of our work under any circumstances, but making sure that it benefits both parties.
But you didn’t understand this idea, apparently. Perhaps you were too lazy to read my long post, so you probably won’t read this either.

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Gerter
Specifically for the community? On the contrary, positive, because more people will play these small mods within larger mods than if they were separate.
Frozensoull
The fact that people stop modding and creating maps because of this has positive consequences for the community? I see.

It’s like talking to a wall. Please tell me, Gerter, are you sure you're "fighting on the right side" now? Doesn't it seem that such logic could lead to not the best consequences?

I am already trying with all my might to lure new people into the community with incentives, manuals, and 24-hour consultations who will do something in the future. It is very unfortunate that all these efforts will be easily thwarted by your attitude: “why are you complaining,” “go work.”
Gerter
For mod authors? Well, negotiate/work together with the authors of large mods; what's the point in endlessly discussing this?
And why do you think we owe anything to people who take the results of our work without asking? How does this even make sense in your head, I don't understand.

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Frozensoull
There is no point in discussing this specifically in this topic; it just came up and started a discussion. On the other hand, perhaps this information will be perceived by modders, and this will have a beneficial effect on the interaction between authors.

Damn, there is a reason to "discuss" this – otherwise, how will people understand that they need to get moving and somehow build connections?

Although maybe it would be more relevant to discuss this, for example, in this topic:
/topic/14858/
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