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"First. The GI manifesto. The essence of a manifesto is the proclamation of something, a 'call,' as you correctly put it. Therefore, violating the manifesto cannot in any way be punishable."
Exactly, no one was arguing that; since you (I would prefer 'thou') chose monumentality as your writing style for the posts, let us continue....
"Second. Conscience, decency... When was the last time you encountered them? I haven't in a long time. No one can determine the presence of a conscience by a nickname. No one can say, judging by a person's messages, that they are decent. In some, they are polite; in others, rude."
Of course I have, that's a ridiculous question. I generally consider all people honest until I'm convinced otherwise;)
No one can tell by a nickname, but you can understand it through communication, after all... So the point is exactly that one shouldn't be rude, whether a person is good or bad, whether they are in the GI or not.
"Third. The dispute. Why do you think no one dares to apply the death penalty in our country? I suspect that even those who scream about its necessity will drop their hands and vote for its abolition when it comes down to a killing (even a just one)."
I'm all for it — there are people who do not deserve to live in society, and unfortunately, there is no one to feed them... There are personal examples; believe me, I would have strangled one guy myself — he killed two girls after raping them, and he got 11 years, and another 9 years for attacking a deputy head of operations of the 63rd precinct. Do you need commentary?
"The indecisiveness inherent in the Russian intelligentsia (and we are all—even the loaders—intelligentsia) nullifies the making of any decision affecting many. Perhaps that is why democracy is contraindicated for us. So, Zhenya, you are the successor to the cause — you are the one who must decide. Those in favor, please speak up.
The main question therefore is: do you want to?"
Well, that was during communism; the lion's share of taxes went to education — the country was in ruins and famine, and against the backdrop of the party's theft and lawlessness, good things happened — widespread literacy, education, and the intensified development of science, which had been persecuted by the church.
But now the streets are full of thugs who need to score money for heroin, and it doesn't matter where they get it, whether they steal it or kill... There are quite a few of them, believe me.... As for the loaders... I agree that's how it was 10 years ago, but now everything is different.
Do I want to? I wrote... I want someone respected from the forum to oversee the GI (I don't even know what to call them — if the word 'leader' evokes such complex associations), to provide concrete examples, and it should be like this: if no one puts forward a suitable candidacy within a week, I will put forward mine.
"Fourth. How can one actually manage the life of the forum? The answer can be reached through another question: does it even need management? Management implies a relationship between the manager and the managed. This exists on the forum on a local scale — Clans, LZMS (or whatever). Is this needed on a general scale? Definitely not. Simply because no one would tolerate it. We are freedom-loving people, no matter how you look at it."
In any case, there is a manager and the managed, only in varying degrees of intensity; on the side of the strong are authority and logic, on the side of the weak is faith. You are managed by hunger, by Bill Gates, by your mother (if you have one), and even by me to some extent... This cannot be avoided, and the wall of shame is part of the GI, it just exists, and a user ban should occur only in exceptional cases, and at the initiative of the GI — please do not confuse — the decision is in any case made by the Administration after reviewing the case....
"As for the rudeness — forgotten. And it can be called rudeness only with a stretch. Rather, a directed construction of the sentence, as a result of which it took on an impolite character"
Fine, I'll just say it once more: after the post requesting Clan leaders to pay attention to the GI, a lot of people flocked here (I won't point fingers), and in 5 hours the thread was overwhelmed by flame, I don't even know how, with rudeness and insults not being isolated incidents, although the manifesto called for the opposite... I feel a part of the guilt for this.
Since the apologies are accepted, that is all.
Exactly, no one was arguing that; since you (I would prefer 'thou') chose monumentality as your writing style for the posts, let us continue....
"Second. Conscience, decency... When was the last time you encountered them? I haven't in a long time. No one can determine the presence of a conscience by a nickname. No one can say, judging by a person's messages, that they are decent. In some, they are polite; in others, rude."
Of course I have, that's a ridiculous question. I generally consider all people honest until I'm convinced otherwise;)
No one can tell by a nickname, but you can understand it through communication, after all... So the point is exactly that one shouldn't be rude, whether a person is good or bad, whether they are in the GI or not.
"Third. The dispute. Why do you think no one dares to apply the death penalty in our country? I suspect that even those who scream about its necessity will drop their hands and vote for its abolition when it comes down to a killing (even a just one)."
I'm all for it — there are people who do not deserve to live in society, and unfortunately, there is no one to feed them... There are personal examples; believe me, I would have strangled one guy myself — he killed two girls after raping them, and he got 11 years, and another 9 years for attacking a deputy head of operations of the 63rd precinct. Do you need commentary?
"The indecisiveness inherent in the Russian intelligentsia (and we are all—even the loaders—intelligentsia) nullifies the making of any decision affecting many. Perhaps that is why democracy is contraindicated for us. So, Zhenya, you are the successor to the cause — you are the one who must decide. Those in favor, please speak up.
The main question therefore is: do you want to?"
Well, that was during communism; the lion's share of taxes went to education — the country was in ruins and famine, and against the backdrop of the party's theft and lawlessness, good things happened — widespread literacy, education, and the intensified development of science, which had been persecuted by the church.
But now the streets are full of thugs who need to score money for heroin, and it doesn't matter where they get it, whether they steal it or kill... There are quite a few of them, believe me.... As for the loaders... I agree that's how it was 10 years ago, but now everything is different.
Do I want to? I wrote... I want someone respected from the forum to oversee the GI (I don't even know what to call them — if the word 'leader' evokes such complex associations), to provide concrete examples, and it should be like this: if no one puts forward a suitable candidacy within a week, I will put forward mine.
"Fourth. How can one actually manage the life of the forum? The answer can be reached through another question: does it even need management? Management implies a relationship between the manager and the managed. This exists on the forum on a local scale — Clans, LZMS (or whatever). Is this needed on a general scale? Definitely not. Simply because no one would tolerate it. We are freedom-loving people, no matter how you look at it."
In any case, there is a manager and the managed, only in varying degrees of intensity; on the side of the strong are authority and logic, on the side of the weak is faith. You are managed by hunger, by Bill Gates, by your mother (if you have one), and even by me to some extent... This cannot be avoided, and the wall of shame is part of the GI, it just exists, and a user ban should occur only in exceptional cases, and at the initiative of the GI — please do not confuse — the decision is in any case made by the Administration after reviewing the case....
"As for the rudeness — forgotten. And it can be called rudeness only with a stretch. Rather, a directed construction of the sentence, as a result of which it took on an impolite character"
Fine, I'll just say it once more: after the post requesting Clan leaders to pay attention to the GI, a lot of people flocked here (I won't point fingers), and in 5 hours the thread was overwhelmed by flame, I don't even know how, with rudeness and insults not being isolated incidents, although the manifesto called for the opposite... I feel a part of the guilt for this.
Since the apologies are accepted, that is all.
Но поскольку я нищий,
у меня лишь есть мечты.
Я разостлал свои мечты пред вашими ногами.
Ступайте бережно, ибо вы ступаете по моим мечтам.
