Discussions, post-mortems, analysis, inflated egos, and all that jazz.

There are no competitors simply because import duties have been raised. This is what keeps the price of foreign cars high. Get it?

And by the way, the price of "buckets" isn't falling either because of this. They set the price on the market.

But we're talking about "development," "our own, domestic" product, but what is it really? They eliminated the competition and aren't hindering Renault-Nissan from making money. They're just slapping together these hybrids like the "Largus."

find 10 differences
https://dacia-logan-mcv.infocar.ua/foto_logan-mcv_id104.html
https://vaz-largus.infocar.ua/largus_id1573.html

Is this what "development" is?

Regarding the Patrick, 720 for a shed on wheels that doesn't even have air conditioning, well, I don't know. And what about all-wheel drive? In general, buying the basic комплектации, which only have a steering wheel and a seat, isn't very appealing.

"there may be a lot of repairs" - and that's a very accurate observation :D But a vehicle should be used, not constantly repaired. That's my opinion.

Yes, they've stood the test of time. If you drive them to a quiet place, like a forest, and listen, you can hear them rotting :D Galvanic or hot-dip galvanizing? No, we haven't heard of it. They didn't have that in the Soviet Union.

About the "loaf" being more alive than the living, I'll never believe it. My friend's father had a "loaf," and he had a lot of fun with it.
But if you like tinkering with it in the garage, like a "real man," and you're happy with it, then there are no questions, of course.

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What are we even talking about? About the fact that "ours" is only in name, which is evidenced by the pricing policy. It's cheaper, of course, but only at the very bottom end of the Renault price range. Not half the price.

I have nothing against the aforementioned cars except for the PRICE.

Those who want to whine that cars are also expensive abroad, but ours are cheaper because they are "OURS," here are some interesting arguments:

For example, a BMW X3 costs $43214, the average salary in Germany is $2720, divide 43214/2720 = 15.9
The average salary in Russia is 25k = $360, the Xray costs 700k = $10000, divide 10000/360 = 27.8
Therefore, the Vesta costs a Russian 27.8/15.9 = 1.75 times more than a BMW X3 costs a German?