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Appeals Committee. Disputed situations in tournaments.

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MerlinTheMagician
Kostya, ideally, there shouldn't be this off-road passage at all, and the guard should be stationed on the road.
"2.6.5. If there is no guard at the passage, it is permissible to move freely from zone to zone," right?
I wonder how the same situation would be interpreted if it were a Jebus Cross... What do we have? Can you pass to the center without breaking through, if, by some mysterious means, a guard is not generated at the passage on the road, but there is one on the off-road? It doesn't seem so. It seems that you cannot use the bugged passage to the center, generated without a guard, until you break through the General Objective on another passage...
There are basic rules that apply to all scenarios, including point 2.6.5. But for some scenarios (including the Jebus Cross), there are a number of differences from the standard rules. In these differences for the Jebus Cross, all similar situations are described.
MerlinTheMagician
However, the opponent coming from the other side objectively has no way of determining that the passage has not been broken through, which the opponent, who has this information, is obliged to report upon discovering his hero, in accordance with the principles of fair play. That is, there is no question of any violation. Especially of awarding a technical defeat. If Timbuktu immediately reported it on the day the opponent used the passage and it was immediately saved, then the opponent either retreats and breaks through the guard or leaves. And if he waited a couple of days and couldn't manage it, then it's a different story...
That's correct.
XIII
Obviously, the golems are a shifted guard of the passage on the road. The second passage is bugged (the obelisk destroyed the terrain). The fact that they are standing closer to the bugged passage is purely coincidental, since there are no guards in bugged passages.
Looking at the screenshot, this road passage, which "squeezed" through the rocks, looks very much like a bugged passage. Usually, bugged passages arise due to cracks in the rocks, shifts in mines, etc. The off-road passage looks quite adequate, just as an off-road passage should look, without any hint of a bug.
kamukag3e
Recently, any appeal to the Arbitration Committee is immediately considered as an attempt to pressure the opponent, rather than an attempt to understand the rules. And the fact that if a player decides to write to the Arbitration Committee, it already means that the game and his nerves are already beyond saving in this particular situation, but the Arbitration Committee is intended to save time for other good players by reviewing this situation.
Well, because in most cases that's exactly what it is. The player already disagrees with the judge's decision and is ready to challenge it in the Arbitration Committee. If you want to "just understand," write your question to an experienced judge (or someone from the Arbitration Committee) and ask.
kamukag3e
Since the beginning of 2017, the results of reviewing appeals to the Arbitration Committee have ceased to be published altogether. I, and not only I, have the impression that there is no point in writing to the Arbitration Committee.
There just haven't been any particularly striking cases that need to be written about. Mostly situations like this one.
kamukag3e
I believe that the review of various controversial situations in the Arbitration Committee with the public announcement of the verdict on the situation should encourage changes to the rules if necessary, or if there is no clear position and the opinion of the community is needed, then it is possible to hold a vote, as was done with the Red Dragon and the Grail.
I agree, but only if the situation requires it. I don't see the point in writing posts in the format "The player violated the rules, disagrees with the judge's decision, appealed to the Arbitration Committee, received a unanimous rejection." It's not clear who this situation would be interesting to.

But if anyone has any suggestions/wishes/misunderstandings, you can always write. For example, I have never refused anyone a consultation. Just yesterday, I was approached and asked to supplement the rules of the game during the Overlord phase. We will discuss it.

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korovka1987

-Here, it seems that the elves spawned one cell lower, so you can't pass by the elves to the left, and therefore you won't be able to get to the scroll and gold. But another question arises: can you defeat the boots without breaking through the elves...? This is even more complicated, and I even doubt that it is possible, but I'm not sure.
-Yes, I also think that you can't pass by the elves, but this is when you see the explored area, and without scouting, it is impossible to determine this in time. I think that even if you defeat the boots, it will not be a gross violation.
If it is impossible to accurately determine whether there is a violation or not, the controversial situation should be interpreted in favor of the player.