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Fireball;104250
2IronAxe
I will not discuss who deserves what rating for which tournament. From everything I've read, I draw 2 conclusions:
1. You have not participated in sporting competitions (or you constantly lost), therefore you cannot understand the role of tournament placement.
:) You are mistaken. And I explained where a rating calculation system with a PLACE parameter can be used without BUGS :)
Fireball;104250
2IronAxe
2. You are trying your best to use the results of the 4th stage of BK,
:) I am not trying anything. Amber and I started the discussion a long time ago, I believe before the start of the BK tournament. And my opinion that a rating taking placement into account is buggy was established back then. This can be verified by the posts in this thread and their dates, and AmberSoler himself can confirm this. And at that time, I didn't know how things would unfold at the BK tournament. I didn't see you in the discussions then with your amazing mathematical abilities :) And when you saw the state of the tables and total points after 5 stages, it suddenly dawned on you to improve the formula :) Now think about who is trying to use what to the maximum. Your tournament position also gives food for thought. Under Axe's system - it's harder for you to catch up to me; under Amber's system - it's easier. Moreover, under Amber's system, you have a decent lead over the 3rd contender Alex_R, while under mine, he is breathing down your neck. But under Amber's system, in the 4th, he got a bonus of only 6 points to his real points, while you got 28 :) Smell the freebie? :smile19: Removed :smile19: And by the way, where is the calculation based on my example with the coop - what, you can't calculate it :) I'm waiting for you to announce the calculation result so everyone can see the bug in the formula with PLACE :)
Fireball;104250

Because you understand that that huge lead was a result of far more than just the difference in skill level. You were simply the only bug-user at the tournament, and the map was very conducive to this. Yes, I am a newbie in 4, but even to me it is obvious that if you didn't have the Pavlov's dog reflex of taking the grave with the spacebar (or if it gave nothing on the map)
, and if you, like me for example, believed in bypassing the hero by using the offloading bug (or both heroes were impassable, not just one), and don't say you didn't doubt at least this question, then there would be no talk of 3 days at all. God grant it takes 5-6, or even more.
I had a better opinion of you :) But what does bug-using have to do with this? The rules allowed using it and that's it. Meanwhile, have you forgotten who announced the bug-feature with the ballista in 3, and thanks to whom everyone who felt like it shot elementals with a ballista in 3. I didn't use this exclusively. And before the tournament for 4, I provided links to help sites I knew and to Articles about graves and other bug-features. :smile19: Removed :smile19:
Fireball;104250

Yes, you were stronger, but you were also lucky. A slightly different map, and you would never have created such a lead.
Well, you've been lucky in plenty of places :) I'm keeping quiet. Fine, lucky in 4. But you were unlucky to snag a 28-point bonus there. I'm ahead of you in any system, so what. Everything is still ahead. And there will be more 4. Who knows who else will be lucky and who won't :)
Fireball;104250

Fear kills the mind.
And so I'm watching you lose your mind :p

PS. And one more thing. Why are you picking on 4 and on me :) Did you not see my post where I suggested 2 options for totaling the Universal results?
Option 1 - under the VDV system (I wrote that I'm not against it)
Option 2 - I suggested that the Universal be totaled over 6 stages out of 12. Players choose the best 6 results from their own. In this version, more people participating in the tournament would have the chance to become a Universal, at least someone like vbn. Otherwise, he's out, as he didn't participate in all stages.

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vbn;104247
Well, from everything written above, I've concluded this:
to avoid stressing out, one must always try to take 1st place,
so that in case of anything, you're not left out due to bugs in the SPR.
Trying is one thing and that's clear :) The leader always gets a hundred under any system. But whether one manages to become the leader or not is another thing. And when you suddenly get unlucky and fail? That's where my question to you is. In which system would you prefer your rating to be calculated in that case - the buggy one that might give you a freebie bonus where the bonus actually exceeds your points for the real result, or would you prefer to get less, but what you honestly earned? :)

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Question to the BK TOURNAMENT ORGANIZERS. Do you intend to total the results for the Universal nomination? If so, under which system or method? Please answer at least approximately. Because players need to know this to develop their rating strategy for the stages!