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Fireball;103935
2AlexeyPank
Of course, this is your system, and it's up to you to decide, but my advice is not to introduce a bonus, because all stages should be EQUIVALENT, at least for the War of Kings ranking.
I agree.
Fireball;103935

A player should not suffer because they performed normally in the Sword Round, but no bonus was awarded there. And it was right not to award it. I have criticized the existing systems a lot, but for War of Kings, an oscillator without a bonus is a much more acceptable system than with one.
And without an oscillator, it's even better :) Because the ranking doesn't depend on such a relative parameter as the place, but only takes into account the days, that is, the main task on the map - to win in terms of speed. It seems that they have already dealt with bonuses in War of Kings. Thank goodness. The oscillator is still here :)
PS. Actually, I wouldn't mind if, for the War of Kings tournament, to determine the winners, they used a PURE calculation of points according to the VDV_forever system. But who would prevent them from calculating each player's game rating both separately and universally. Why did they decide to determine the winners in War of Kings based on the game rating? How is this related? The rating is calculated on the forum and not only for War of Kings games, but also for blitzes, and for skeletons, etc. If Pank started using a bonus, would determining the winner in War of Kings then depend even more on random games or something? They've mixed everything up. I suggested simply calculating game ratings for players on the forum, but not taking them into account when determining the winner of any of the tournaments. Because that's how it happens in separate standard tournaments. First, the winner is determined - places are assigned, and then the rating is calculated. But what happens in War of Kings? For each of the stages, it seems to be the same. And then they decide, based on GAME RATINGS, to determine the winners of the entire tournament and separately for each version :) In general, I don't really care how they determine the winners in War of Kings. The main thing is that all players on the forum continue to have their game rating calculated AND NOT ONLY FOR PARTICIPATING IN WAR OF KINGS. I hope my position is clear?

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Fireball;103935

2IronAxe
Did you read post 643?
Yes. And I even answered. I just had internet problems at work.

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AlexeyPank;103942
I'll explain why there was no bonus before: the strength of the players was unknown.
Why is it needed now? To determine the strength of the tournament, the growth of players' skills. Since I hope that the War of Kings tournament will be annual, then in the following stages the bonus will be counted from the very beginning. This War of Kings tournament is largely a test run. Based on its results, it will be possible to develop new unified rules, a unified rating, and so on. But at the same time, I can also calculate without a bonus.
Well, there was some kind of database for some versions of the games - for 1, 2, 3, 5, several tournaments were held before Kanigem :) You could take this into account. Or will you only take into account the bonus strength of players from the Kanigem tournament stages? And will you assign some additional rating to new players out of thin air? It may turn out to be higher than the rating of some active participants in the tournaments who were unlucky and have a rating from 0 to 10 points :)