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Player rating for tournaments across all installments of Heroes.
The winner of a more difficult tournament should not receive fewer points than the winner of an easier one. Especially if their only fault was getting a slower map in their tournament. You want to make it complete randomness. Effectively, whoever gets the fastest map will win the entire WC. But the stages should be equal in value.
What does the WC have to do with this? The rating is calculated based on other Tournaments as well. Let's put it this way: someone who intended to win the WC in the Universal category (across all hero versions combined) understands that they cannot skip a single version of a single stage. Agreed. Someone who wants to win in a nomination for a SPECIFIC version understands that they only need to play great in both stages for that specific version. And wouldn't they not care who grabs the universal win if they win, for example, in their version, say Heroes 3 ??????? Do you not understand this? Fireball;103922
For example, let's say a certain player showed results of 12,7,7,6,9 days respectively across the WC stages, winning 4 out of five stages. Even with a 1-day virtual bonus, he would still lose to you in the rating. If you consider this normal, there is no need to continue the conversation.
I don't understand anything :) What did this player even want? To win the rating for the universal category? From your example, it turns out that both he and I played all stages for all versions. He won everywhere except for one version. It turns out he failed the fifth one so badly that he blew the universal win. Is that possible? Punk calculates the WC using three systems, and what if everyone gives such a result? If so, who is to blame — me? You can't really blame the person who picked the maps either. Comparing ratings obtained from different versions is useless, and that has already been mentioned. Everyone knows they will be summed up, and that's all. Beyond that, everyone chooses their own strategy, or rather, already chose one and played based on it for half the tournament. We'll see what happens. But in my opinion, it's already clear that there will be nominations for each version and one universal one. I can't add anything more to this, only one thing: it seems to me that your example is unrealistic even under the existing systems. And now that half the tournament is over, people have suddenly woken up to develop a new system (where were you before — supposedly here — why were you silent?) — now everyone who feels like it is rushing to invent their own systems, adjusting coefficients to fit their already existing results in the tournament in the hope that the final will be determined by a newly invented system.Fireball;103922
For the WC, Alexey has a bonus of 0 for everyone
Then how the heck does his system differ from Ambera's system — him, not me :) Fireball;103922
Not so. The result is not just days, but also place.
I've already proven a hundred times that in Heroes, place is nothing. Result is EVERYTHING. Because place is so relative in combination with the game version, map difficulty, the player pool and the strength of a given party, whether players of even the same level have free time for this tournament, attendance or absence for valid or invalid reasons, and other factors that you'll never derive a formula that actually calculates the rating under a single denominator across different versions of the Heroes game, unless you bring your entire Research Institute to the task :) Why complicate everything when it's already perfectly clear. Six nominations, one of which is universal, which does NOT determine that the player is the best across all versions, because there will be a separate nomination for each version of the game. What's wrong with that? Fireball;103922
If you don't like it, don't read it. If a system had been chosen, I wouldn't have said a word (at least until the end of the tournament), regardless of whose it was. But as it stands, I prefer to discuss it, listen to criticism, and propose a ready-made option. As for how the choice will be made — that's a separate matter.
Since I'm reading it, it means I like it :) hee-hee :) look at you guys doing math with each other :) You wrote yourself that you'd prefer to listen to criticism — so listen. PS. If Punk is not using his bonuses for the WC calculation right now, then he shouldn't start until the end of the tournament. But then what is he calculating there, I don't understand :) according to his own system. Is the difference from Ambera only in the lower limit or what? Fireball;103922
As for how the choice will be made — that's a separate matter.
:) Well yes — a separate matter. And it should be done after the end of the Kanigem tournament. Because introducing a new rating calculation system after half the tournament has passed is even worse than changing the rules during a tournament on a given map, imho.