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Posts from Voting for the location of the CIS-2107 tournament.
Okay, people, that's enough, it's all turning into some kind of hysteria and constant trolling of Kirill (Merlin):-D.
Let's talk with Alex and Vigo in the evening and finalize everything, although in general, Kirill's words about the voting are correct, but on the other hand, if Ekb or Korolev wins, even if it's Mallorca, there will still be dissatisfied people, and there's nothing we can do about it.
No one is criticizing Kirill, aka Merlin, for consolidating everything and organizing it neatly. :smile41: :D
It's just that everything seemed a bit too assertive. :smile32: And there was too much discussion... :smile15:
freesha
Let's chat with Alex and Vigo in the evening and finalize everything, although Kirill's words about the voting are generally correct, but on the other hand, if Ekb or Korolev won, even if it was Mallorca, there would still be dissatisfied people, and there's nothing we can do about it.
By the way, Korolev looks very interesting.
1. No CIS events have been held in Korolev (Moscow).
2. Korolev is located 25 km from the center of Moscow, and there are regular commuter trains. This means it will be quite convenient to take tourist trips. But it's hard to get out from the resorts in Yekaterinburg or Volgograd.
3. Financial aspect. I understand that Korolev will be financially somewhere in between Yekaterinburg and Volgograd. Yekaterinburg is estimated at 17-19, Volgograd at 23-25, so if Korolev is, say, 19-21.
In total, for example, for me, the situation is as follows:
Volgograd: 25k for accommodation + 15k for tickets - a total of at least 40k without drinks.
Korolev: 21k for accommodation + 6k for tickets (although Mee says that there are even tickets for 3k round trip) - a total of 27k without drinks, which is a much more pleasant amount.
4. If Vitya takes Merlin as the host, then he won't have to pay for his tickets to Korolev, which saves about 8k, which can, for example, be used to pay for the conference room.
So, Vitya, let's make your application more specific. Going to Korolev seems much more realistic to me than going to Volgograd.
Visiting Korolev seems much more realistic to me than visiting Volgograd.
You're not planning to go to either place anyway. That's one thing. Now, imagine this. It's 2012. A decision is made to hold the event in Yekaterinburg. We make arrangements with the venue. We take on the responsibility. And then "X" bursts in with a proposal – let me join in, just in case I feel like it?.. Would you have liked that in 2012? Let me explain it another way... A vote was announced. Its deadlines were set. Based on these deadlines, the organizers took a break in negotiations with the venue owners. And these deadlines were communicated to the venue owners (so that by February 6th, they would know whether we confirm the booking or not).
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)
"Совесть - она либо есть, либо её нет" (с) RedWhait HP
So, Vitya, let's get your application more specific.
I checked the website – the room rates are the same as in Volgograd, around 3500 per night for a double room (including breakfast). Regarding the conference hall, there will be individual agreements in both places, but I think the prices will be roughly the same. As for the food, there probably won't be any significant differences.
As for entertainment, I don't know, but it's not included in the minimum package, so it doesn't matter.
2. Korolev is 25 km from the center of Moscow + there are constant commuter trains. So, it will be quite convenient to take tourist trips. But with the resorts, whether in Yekaterinburg or Volgograd, it's hard to get out.
It takes about 2 hours to get to Moscow (walking to the bus, bus to the train, train to Moscow), if I remember correctly. So, it makes sense to plan day trips.
You're not planning on going anywhere anyway. That's one thing.
You quickly decided for Asm, maybe you'll decide everything for everyone? It's easy for you to travel when everything is paid for.
I'm choosing wallpaper for my apartment, can you help me choose a color?)))
In general, I agree with my brother, it's more practical in terms of your expenses - Royal, the saved money can go to the gym, and it will be cheaper for everyone.
It takes about an hour to get from there to the center of Moscow. 15-20 minutes by minibus, or 8-10 minutes by taxi ((don't be scared) I also have discounts there) for 100-150 rubles you'll be at the Bolshevo station, from there it's 38 minutes and you'll be in the center of Moscow at Komsomolskaya Square)).
Regarding the conference room - 3000 rubles for a three-hour session, and the remaining 500 rubles per hour, plus however much time we need. But I'm still negotiating and trying to get a better price. Let's see what tomorrow brings.
Actually, we could rent the entire hotel for ourselves) but seeing how the discussion is going and what people are saying, we're not considering that option yet).
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!! Но!... Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...
As far as I remember, it takes about 2 hours to get there from Moscow in total (walking to the bus, bus to the train, train to Moscow). So, it makes sense to plan day trips.
60-70 minutes by bus + train, or bus to bus, approximately the same.
Added 3 minutes later Vigo
Actually, we could book the entire hotel for ourselves. But seeing how the discussion is going and what people are saying, we're not considering that yet.
The discussion is going well, but it seems that way only because someone was late with this. If we could see the full scope of the problem right away, it might have been resolved already.
Hi Vasya! I know we're a bit late. I somehow forgot that the applications need to be submitted in January; I thought it was later. I apologize for the sudden appearance in the community.
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!! Но!... Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...
It takes about 2 hours to get to Moscow, if I remember correctly (walking to the bus, bus to the commuter train, commuter train to Moscow). So, it makes sense to plan day trips.
I checked the route on Yandex - it doesn't take that long to get to the Bolshevo platform by minibus (but you still have to wait 15-20 minutes for it). Plus, from Bolshevo, you take the commuter train. asm
Vladivostok: 25k for accommodation + 15k for tickets - a total of at least 40k, excluding alcohol.
Are these tickets for people from Siberia?asm
3. Financial aspect. I assume that Korolev will be financially somewhere in between Yekaterinburg and Vladivostok.
Vigo
On average, even if there are 40 people, and each person spends an average of 20,000-25,000 rubles on accommodation, food, and the conference fee, that's at least a million.
A million minimum means the price will be 25k. Did you read what's on their website? Did you see the keywords or not? "In the event of a microphone being dropped, the guest must pay a fine of 3,000 rubles (if there is no damage to the microphone's functionality)." I'm translating this into Russian: "we will try to rip you off at every turn, using any legal and illegal means." The CIS under the motto "Give me three thousand!" is a joke. And next year, I would be very happy to consider Korolev's application.
Rental of additional equipment No. Equipment Name Cost 1 Portable screen on a tripod (1.70 x 1.70) 500.00/day 2 Projector (2000 Lm) XGA resolution 2000.00/day 3 Radio microphone, amplifier, mixing console, technical support 4000.00/day
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)
"Совесть - она либо есть, либо её нет" (с) RedWhait HP
Alone
Будьте осторожны со своими желаниями. Иногда они исполняются.
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