Is it possible to defeat 1000 Archangels with just one Imp? — Polls

FoBo$

19 years ago

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It's all real! Didn't you read the beginning of this thread???:eek:
On page 1, there's a map where everything is explained!

Алхимик

19 years ago

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Funny.
The map certainly exists. But this is again an "unfair" method. On a simple map, for example, in a tournament, would you be able to achieve such parameters? Such a situation will never happen.
What's the point of all this?

If you can do this on a simple scenario or tournament map – in a fair way, without manually setting parameters or casting spells – then, yes, you are the King. But as it is...

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Dirty_Player

19 years ago

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So, what's the problem with doing it that way? To complete this task, you need to gather about 50-60 spell power and 1000+ mana, right? What's the problem with that? It's quite achievable on a random XL map...

SandroXXL

19 years ago

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Here, the question of the fairness of such an approach arises. The main thing is that it’s possible. It’s a clever author’s trick, and, by the way, a very successful one. I laughed at myself for a long time after I launched the map. FoBo$, did you come up with this yourself, or did someone suggest it?

FoBo$

19 years ago

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I came up with it myself.

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Алхимик

19 years ago

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Dirty_Player;91362

It's quite possible on a random XL map...

And even that isn't a certainty... Considering the map generator's strange tendency to place portals everywhere, both where they should and shouldn't be... Even in a one-on-one match on an XL map, you might end up fighting the opponent in the second or third week.

step_1985

19 years ago

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Of course, you can! If you have an expert-level fire magic skill, take the Barsek spell, and all the Archangels will fight each other, but make sure you have enough magic points.

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SandroXXL

19 years ago

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step_1985;92780

Of course, you can! If you have expert fire magic, take the Berserk spell, and all the Archangels will fight each other, but you need enough magic for that.

This is a widely held misconception. Berserk won't affect all of them at once, and the Archangels, not under the influence of the spell, will primarily kill that single demon. And that's it! So, the main thing is to blind him, and then summon elementals using all your magic. And without cursed armor, the Archangels will kill the demon at the beginning of the battle.

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Dirty_Player

19 years ago

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Alchemist;91925

And that's not a certainty either... Considering the map generator's strange fondness for placing portals everywhere, where it can and can't... Even in a one-on-one match on an XL map, you can end up fighting your opponent for the second or third week.

What prevents you from defeating your opponent and leaving them with just one empty Castle, while you focus on your own business?

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Ataman

19 years ago

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Dirty_Player;93051

What prevents you from defeating your opponent and leaving them with just one empty Castle, while you focus on your own objectives?

If you leave your opponent with an empty Castle, they won't be able to amass 1000 Archangels!

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Dirty_Player

19 years ago

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Ataman;93056

If you leave the opponent with an empty castle, they won't be able to accumulate 1000 Archangels!

:smile35: For those who are completely same-//clueless, I am explaining one last time!!!
The AI simply will not gather 1000 Archangels!!! It is obvious!!! That is why a random map is created, opened with the editor, and 1000 Archangels are placed in some neutral town. The game begins! 1 vs 1! The AI is wiped out and pinned down in an empty Castle. A secondary hero with a decent army is placed in front of the castle so that the AI just sits there and stays there, while the main hero goes (preferably flies) to gather magic power, mana, and artifacts. After gathering enough, they attack the castle with Archangels!! THAT'S IT!!!

KRuGeR1991

19 years ago

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You can only win if you have a lot of artifacts, reduce the enemy's morale, and use Dark and Chaos magic, although using a single scout has a much higher chance of success.

}\{ЕК

19 years ago

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What a stupid question, of course not!!!!!!!!!!!!! And all the suggested methods involve a battle between the HERO and his MAGIC against the ARCHANGELS, not a demon, as stated in the question!!!!!!!

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Слоныш

19 years ago

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KRuGeR1991;93129

You can only win if you have a ton of artifacts, lower the morale, use Dark Magic and Chaos magic, although a single scout has a much better chance.

Yeah, right. Exactly. But what Dark Magic and Chaos magic, and scouts are there in Heroes 3?! :smile51:

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bers-rus

19 years ago

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I agree with Alan and Arandor. It's necessary to consider strategies involving the "Berserk" spell with an expert-level Fire Mage... and then finish them off with combat spells. But there's a problem here... initiative... and at least two Archangel units need to be positioned right next to each other immediately... And you can try to seize the initiative by lowering the morale of the enemy army (there are enough ways to do that).

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