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Let's discuss whether the unit's cost reflects its qualities.
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Here is the first example of a mismatch — the Champion. 1500 and 2 wood would be enough for him, as he's quite weak and asks for too much;
The opposite example (though from memory) is the Crusaders — they were buffed with more HP, but the price remained the same, and by the way, their growth was increased, just saying =) Crusaders are a very profitable Life product :D
And Monks are useless without accuracy.
P.S. keeping the discussion going) by the way, the Dragon King asks for more than he's actually worth; on one hand, he has 1000 HP and an attack stronger than Black Dragons, and you can cast positive spells on him, while he costs the same as a Black Dragon, but on the other hand — his attack can roast half of his own army, especially if Berserk is cast on him :D , so it's not immediately obvious whether he's expensive or cheap)
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I think we should make Hydras cheaper. They seem a bit weak: their damage isn't very high, and they get taken down before they can even reach the enemy. Or at least increase their growth rate from 2 to 3 and set the price to be the same as Champions, but instead of wood, use mercury.
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And hydras are still rarely built; dragons have a lot of authority).

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by the way, hydras are not weak at all; they move slowly, but that's why they have acceleration, and they are quite resilient and attack five units at once.


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For example, I wouldn't spend that much money on champions... I just don't like them. They don't live up to expectations. But Hydras... if paired with a good (and most importantly, skilled) Chaos magic build, they're great! When there's no time or resources, you can easily do without Champions.
IMHO, this is similar to the situation with Sylvan and Phoenixes.
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I also don't like the price of Djinns... they are too cheap and powerful. Their price should be increased by at least 1.5 times, and their stats should be reduced.
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Okay, then I also have a request to do the same for monks and champions... :)
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Yeah, then please do the same with the Monks and Champions... :)
But what did the Monks do? They cost as much as they weigh, besides, the Crusaders are much better, kill them all, kill them all, kill them all:D


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But what about the monks? They cost as much as they weigh, and besides, Crusaders are much better. We should slaughter everyone, slaughter, slaughter:D
Oh! A like-minded person:D Crusaders forward!!!:D
And by the way, the price for Crusaders should be slightly reduced.
And they also forgot about the Nagas... They need to be made cheaper and given a bonus.
:D
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OptiMAL;96357
Oh! Like-minded person:D Crusaders, forward!!!:D
And by the way, the price for the Crusaders could be slightly reduced.
And they also forgot about the Nagas... They need to be made cheaper and given a bonus.
No, the Crusaders and Nagas are priced just right, considering their HP was increased to 75, and the Nagas were given a triple attack and retaliation, so I don't mind paying for them, although if their price was reduced, I wouldn't object:D.
P.S. I don't really like Djinns; I prefer Nagas, especially when they have teleportation:)


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No, the Crusaders and Nagas are priced perfectly; their health has been increased to 75, and the Nagas have been given a triple strike and retaliation, so I don't mind paying for them, although I wouldn't object if their price was lowered:D.
P.S. I generally don't like Djinns; I prefer Nagas, especially when they have teleportation:)
Well, I tested the Nagas... they don't hit three, they hit everyone around them....
But you can't dislike Djinns:) Although they've become arrogant in the Conflux: their price is almost ridiculously low, and their magic is amazing:)
:D
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OptiMAL;96476
Well, I tested it... they don't hit three, but everyone around them....
You can't dislike Djinns:) Although they've become too arrogant in Whirlwinds: the price is almost ridiculously low, and the magic is great:)
EVERYONE around!?:confused: I thought they have a Cerberus ability?! Well, everyone means everyone:smile51:
And Djinns are powerful guys, perhaps too much, but if their magic runs out, they become useless; you need to stock up on Imps against them:D


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And Djinns are powerful, too, but if they run out of magic, they become useless; you need to stock up on Demons to fight them:D
You can basically get the Energy Drain spell, and then Djinns will cast spells 4 times instead of 8.
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You can basically get the Energy Drain spell, and then the genies will cast spells 8 times instead of 4 :)
What a relief! Four volleys of hundreds of genies... no, that's not an option, it's better to use Confusion on them or a Cloud of Confusion if possible.


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Не думай, что будет потом,
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What a relief! Four volleys of hundreds of Djinns... no, that's not an option, it's better to use Confusion or a Cloud of Confusion on them if possible.
So, this will only stun them for one turn. That's not a solution. And 4 volleys are better than 8, right?:D
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