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Diamond Masters

We present to your attention a HotA tournament to determine the best ХВ player on the Diamond map.

The winner of a similar tournament for SoD and WT:
Diamond Monster - BA/IEHOK

Organizational matters:

1. Host - skd (ICQ 593626431), Judges - HellLighT (ICQ 649566490)
2. The tournament is held according to Rules for organizing, conducting, and participating in online HOMM3 tournaments.
3. Players with registration dates on the forum before March 1, 2016 are invited to participate in the tournament. Registration for players with later registration dates will be considered individually.
4. The regulations and rules of the tournament will not be changed after the end of the registration period during the tournament.
5. All games of the tournament count towards the HoMM3 HW Player Rating.
6. Technical results are awarded for matches that were not played within the specified time frame.
7. If any controversial issues arise, please discuss them outside the forum. To resolve the issue, contact the host or judge of the tournament via ICQ and provide daily saves, ICQ logs, and other necessary information.
The judges' decision is made primarily based on the rules of the tournament. If a situation arises that is not covered by the rules, the judges rely on basic logic and gaming ethics.

Regulations


Rules.

1. Game version: The tournament is held on HotA version 1.4.2 (or the latest available version) + ХВ Rules 1.38 (or the latest available version).
2. The tournament is held according to the rules for online games in the HoTA section.
3. Maps: The tournament is held on the Diamond map; if a decisive game is needed, it will be played on the Mt_Diamond (Mirror) map.
Roads - medium.
On the Diamond map, after determining the starting cities/heroes and colors, players eliminate one city each (the player who lost the bidding eliminates first), after which the winner of the bidding determines the starting cities for the computers without repetition.
On the Mt_Diamond map, the starting cities for the computers are determined randomly.
3. Restarts: For Diamond – 112, for Mt_Diamond – 111.
4. On the Diamond map, the starting color and city (hero), and on the Mt_Diamond map, the starting color and hero are determined by bidding.
5. Since there is a bid, redrawing is allowed.
6. Bidding rules:
In the "Castle Selection" section of the ХВ Rules options, the server-player clicks "Random vs Random" (when playing on Diamond) or "Random City" (when playing on Mt_Diamond), as a result of which a random pair of cities / city is generated, and the bidding begins.
*At the request of one of the players, if a mirror pair appears on the Diamond map, the pair will be regenerated.
*After determining the city on the Mt_Diamond map, before the start of the bidding, players have the right (but are not obliged) to eliminate one hero each (the player indicated second in the pair eliminates first).
The bid must be a multiple of "100".
The winner of the bid gets the opportunity to choose: take the right to choose the castle (hero) or the right to choose the color, and the loser in the bid receives the remaining choice (that is, a single bid is held).

Tournament format.

1. The tournament is held according to the Olympic system up to 2 wins in a match. After losing a match, the losing player leaves the tournament.
2. Schedule:
Registration for the tournament ends at 8:00 PM Moscow time on August 21, 2016.
A match to 2 wins is played within 28 calendar days (with the exception of New Year's holidays).
3. Tournament games are played with a chess timer.
Timer for the "Diamond" map - 19:00+08:00+01:15.
Timer for the "Mt_Diamond" map - 24:00+08:30+01:30.

UTC+03:00, icq 593626431
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Gunnar got lucky and managed to scout the area earlier. That's all the luck he had. Thanks for the game.
Battle Report Accepted
Инферно / Inferno Faction Инферно / Inferno
Октавия / Octavia Start Hero Октавия / Octavia
Октавия / Octavia Main Hero Октавия / Octavia
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Инферно / Inferno Faction Инферно / Inferno
Нимусса / Nymus Start Hero Нимусса / Nymus
Нимусса / Nymus Main Hero Нимусса / Nymus
Map Template
Mirror Diamond
Game Length
124 days
Game Date
10/20/2016
Reported
10/20/2016 12:10 PM
Rating Impact Archived
De_Luxe 1747 1765 +18 ↑
Redwhait 1839 1821 -18 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 10/20/2016 12:31 PM

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De_Luxe
draw. just gave everything needed, kz +6 all for dendrams, many Dragon Fly Hives
OP has Dragon Fly Hives 12+8+12+8 :D
Thanks for the game!
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it's actually the complete opposite here, Reddy was given everything needed
Alkin is the daddy; I collected hives from 121, took +3+4all behind complex guards, followed by Dragon Utopia. The only thing missing for the alliance was a kettle, but they gave wings and кз.
Epic finale: summoning some crap against summoning air units, both had over 500 mana, but I had mages from Pandora, mass shield, resurrection, and shackles.
Thanks for the game!
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Gunnar got lucky, I caught him and scouted early. Just luck. Thanks for the game.
Gunnar with 113 speed, 3k mana points, and Earth magic is a tough opponent, while Gundula with Water magic didn't choose the right path...
Thanks for the game and good luck in the future!
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Gunnar with 113 speed runs with 3k mana and has Earth, while Gundula with Water went down the wrong path...
This is the essence of "balanced" mirror templates.
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This is the essence of "balanced" mirror builds.

So, when a Logistics player appears in a NON-mirror match, is that NOT the point? It's just that in those matches, this Logistics player also quickly finds objects that the opponent cannot find by definition.
http://ru.twitch.tv/lizard_wt
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This is the essence of "balanced" mirror-match decks.


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So, when a Logistics expert appears on a NON-mirror map, is that NOT the main point? It's just that on that map, this Logistics expert can also quickly find objects that the opponent cannot find a priori.
The point isn't the Logistics expert. The point is that on a mirror map, with a "lucky" hero or a "lucky" choice of direction, it's much harder to make a comeback, because there are simply no other advantages to take. M-mirrors are unplayable for this reason.
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The problem isn't with the Logistics skill. The issue is that on a mirror map, it's much harder to make a comeback with a "lucky" hero or a "lucky" choice of direction, because there are simply no other advantages to gain. M-maps are unplayable for this reason.
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I think someone here had that bearded guy in a helmet as their avatar. I saw it in the archives. Who is that? :D



ICQ is DEAD! Write here: my discord account is flate#4193
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I'm fucking Luck like a dirty BITCH! :smile51:
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It's not about the logist here. The point is that on a mirror, with a "lucky" hero or a "lucky" choice of direction, it's many times harder to make a comeback because there are simply no other advantages to draw from. For this reason, M-mirrors are completely unplayable.

When talking about the ratio of "balance between HL+U and mirrors," I am relying exclusively on the experience of games played. In total across WT+SoD+HotA, I have likely played more mirror maps than any other currently active hero players. Including many series against top players. And so, simply by statistics in these games, there is a noticeably lower win percentage due to "layout" than on any other template. One-sided stomps on mirrors account for less than 20% of matches.

p.s. M-mirrors are obviously pure fun; I'm not touching those (skirmish etc.).
http://ru.twitch.tv/lizard_wt
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I think someone here had this bearded guy in a helmet as their avatar. I saw it in the archives. Who is this gentleman? :D

Nebuchadnezzar


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I think someone here had this bearded guy in a helmet as their avatar. I saw it in the archives. Who is this gentleman? :D
Someone you shouldn't emulate.
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TFP

“Everything comes in time to him who knows how to wait.”
Leo Tolstoy
confirm, thx for game.
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not chens here oponent whit 17 AA in 133

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“Everything comes in time to him who knows how to wait.”
Leo Tolstoy
good with cons here, thx for game)

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