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"King of the Hill-2" Tournament

King of the Hill is an ongoing tournament based on the "play until you are defeated" principle, where only two players can participate at a time – the loser gives up their place to the next contender, and the winner continues playing until they lose themselves. In other words, players must try to defeat the current King of the Hill and end his winning streak; the player who defeats him takes his place. The winner of the previous tournament is HellLight.

Organizational matters:
1. Tournament organizers – Nitro, skd; judge – Dirty Player.
2. The tournament starts on April 1, 2016. The deadline is April 1, 2017.
3. The tournament will be held according to the Rules for organizing, conducting, and participating in online HOMM3 tournaments.
4. All games in the tournament are played within the HoMM3 HW Player Rating system.
5. Minor adjustments to the regulations may be made during the tournament.
6. If any controversial issues arise, please discuss them outside the forum. To resolve them, contact one of the organizers or the tournament judge via ICQ and provide daily save files, ICQ logs, and other necessary information.
7. Any unjustified delays in the game, squabbles, and disrespectful behavior towards opponents will be strictly punished, up to a permanent ban from the tournament.

Requirements for participants:
1. Experienced Heroesworld players are invited to participate in the tournament.
2. Players with a General rating of 1800+, as well as players included in the top-15 Tournament Ranking, have the right to register freely for the tournament (at any time from the start of registration until the start of the tournament).
3. Applications for participation from other players will be considered by the organizers and the tournament judge individually.
4. You can submit an application to participate even after the start of the tournament.

The winner of the tournament will receive:
1. An avatar award: King's crown

2. Cash prize: $200 + donation (to a bank account or Paypal) within a week after the results are announced.
Donation:
Noom - 1000 RUR.
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Let's find someone else; he won't play with me.

And he still owes me money for playing...

If he refuses, there will be another player; according to the rules, a participant has 24 hours to decide.

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If he refuses, there will be another one; according to the rules, the participant has 24 hours to decide.

He already did that, actually; it's the last line.
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I have a proposal to change the rules, but since 1/3 of the tournament has already passed, it needs to be discussed. I already wrote to Nitro, but he hasn't responded yet. The idea came to me when FTS had a winning streak, and now that Gomunguls has a winning streak, this topic has become relevant.
Specifically: to make changes to the rules regarding the handicap and points in the following way.

The handicap starts at -2k for the King of the Hill and +2k for the Challenger, and 1 point is awarded for a win.
If the King of the Hill has a winning streak of 3 games (1 as a Challenger and 2 as a King), then in the following games, the handicap starts at -3k for the King of the Hill and +3k for the Challenger, and 1.5 points are awarded for a win (which is important for both the Challenger and the King).
If the King of the Hill has a winning streak of 5 games (1 as a Challenger and 4 as a King), then in the following games, the handicap starts at -4k for the King of the Hill and +4k for the Challenger, and 2 points are awarded for a win (again, for both the Challenger and the King).

-4k/+4k and 2 points for a win is the maximum, and the stakes will not be raised above this value.

If you approve this change, the points will need to be recalculated slightly, taking into account the tournament results.
Overall, I've had this idea in mind since around June, as I believe that the rules in this area are not well-written.

When Fair won 4 times in a row, I was surprised that he wasn't given 1.5 points for the last game (which would have been logical, since it's harder for him to play)... I reread the rules, kept my opinion to myself, and didn't write anything, but since there's a discussion, I can say that the current rules look stupid, and if there are changes that skd has outlined, I'm in favor of them. Otherwise, everyone in the tournament is against the King, and it only gets harder with each game...

P.S. Ideally, it would be like this: if the King wins 3 games in a row, for example, then he will receive 1.5 points for the next win, and the Challenger always gets 1. I don't see any point in giving extra points to the Challenger. Let him become the King, win 3 games in a row, and then get bonuses.

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If you approve this change, the points will need to be recalculated slightly, taking into account the tournament results.
Overall, I've had this idea in mind since around June, as I believe that the rules in this area are not well-written.

By the way, I think that you and Nitro should decide this yourselves, and not ask the players, because here either those who are interested will be (like me or Fair), and those who are not interested. But the question is about improving and making the rules more adequate.
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For: Limit the negative impact on gold for the king to 4. Against: Any king should receive more than 1 point for victories. For: The limit for players who win against a king with a winning streak should be 2 points.

лето 2012.
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For: Limit the negative impact on gold for the king to 4. Against: Any king should receive more than 1 point for victories. For: The limit for players who win against a king with a winning streak should be 2 points.
I support this.
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For: Limit the negative impact on gold for the king to 4. Against: Any king should receive more than 1 point for victories. For: The limit for players who win against a king with a series should be 2 points.

I support this. There is some logic in the idea that the challenger, not the king, receives bonuses. The king is already in the game and, accordingly, has a direct opportunity to replenish his point reserve. The challenger, on the other hand, sometimes waits for months for their chance, and when they finally get it, the only way to get involved in the race is to receive more than 1 point for a victory.
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I agree. There's some logic in the idea that the challenger, not the king, receives the bonuses. The king is already in the game and, therefore, has a direct opportunity to replenish his point reserve. The challenger, on the other hand, sometimes waits for months for their chance, and when they finally get it, the only way to join the race is to receive not 1, but more points for a victory.

The same can be said in reverse: the king is already at a disadvantage financially, so try winning those 3 matches in a row. The challenger is also in the game, just like the king, and even has a better chance of winning due to the bonus in points.
Logically, the king should receive bonuses for a winning streak, not the challenger for just one game.


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The same can be said in reverse; the King is already at a disadvantage financially, and now he has to try to win these 3 matches in a row. The Challenger is also in the game, just like the King, and even has a better chance of winning due to the bonus in money.
Logically, the King should receive bonuses for a winning streak, not the Challenger for just one game.
The King is the King, meaning things shouldn't be easy for him. However, adventurers battling a King who has been sitting on the throne for too long could benefit from a bonus. This is the point: to catch up in points with the leader who has pulled ahead, creating intrigue and providing an extra incentive to try harder.
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The same can be said in reverse; the King is already at a disadvantage financially, and now he has to try to win these 3 matches in a row. The Challenger is also in the game, just like the King, and even has a better chance of winning due to the bonus in money.
Logically, the King should receive bonuses for a winning streak, not the Challenger for just one game.

A compromise is possible. For example, our next game could be worth just 2 points, regardless of who wins.
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Isn't giving 4k bonus and 2 points at the same time a bit too generous? I think it should be either one or the other. Alternatively, you could make it a choice for the contender, if you want to add extra excitement and motivation.
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Isn't that a bit too generous – 4k bonus points and 2 additional points? I think it should be either one or the other. Alternatively, you could make it a choice for the contender if you want to add extra excitement and motivation.
It's fine. If someone has spent so much time on the throne, the reward with a bonus is quite adequate. Anything more would be excessive.
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I agree that it's stupid to give more than one point for a King when he's in a clearly losing position. I said the same thing before: either a refund of money or a bonus in points for the contender. Just let there be only one of these.
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A king is a king for a reason, meaning life shouldn't be easy for him. However, adventurers battling a king who has been on the throne for too long could benefit from a bonus, which is the point – to catch up in points with the leader who has pulled ahead, creating intrigue and providing extra motivation to try harder.
I agree. In other words, you can win a tournament in two ways: either by bombing everyone like Vitaly is doing now, or by defeating someone like Vitaly, getting a nice bonus, and then bombing everyone again.

лето 2012.
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