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Hello to all snow lovers! After 3 years, Vic and I decided to continue the tradition and hold this tournament again, but this time on HotA, since the best player has already been determined on SoD.
Second Snow
0. In this tournament, all games are played with the Tower Castle. Tournament goals: 1. Identify winners 2. Increase interest in the "Tower" castle 3. Improve gameplay skills and gain experience. I. General questions. 1. Game version HotA 1.4.2 (or later at the start of the tournament) + HD-mod, by agreement SoD or any other (e.g., WT :D ) 2. Players negotiate for the right to choose a color and hero. The first negotiation is for the hero, the second for the color. 3. Templates. Template selection takes place using a draft. The player who is "higher" in the tournament bracket starts the draft. Jebus Cross Diamond Mini-Nostalgia (blue picks first) 8mm6a 8xm12a h3dm1 (timer 21:00+08:00+01:15) mt-Diamond (timer 21:00+08:00+01:15) The list of templates may be slightly changed according to participants' wishes. 4. Games are played simultaneously. By agreement, you can play according to the classic scheme. Simultaneous move times: 7 days for Jebus Cross, h3dm1 5 days for Diamond, mt-Diamond, 8mm6a, 8xm12a 12 days for Mini-Nostalgia 5. Rematches. For mirror templates - 1 day, for classic ones - 3 days. II. Rules. 1. Games are played according to standard rules For HotA For SoD III. Organizational issues. 1. The tournament is a fan event. 2. Players who have been banned from competitive play are not allowed to participate in the tournament. If any player receives a ban during the tournament, they will be disqualified and their results will be annulled. 3. Hosts and judges. Hosts Dirty_Player (408722873) and Wicc (148698328) Judges will be determined later. 4. Disputes between players are resolved by the judges; disputes between players and judges are resolved by the arbitration committee. 5. When registering, each participant must add an image with a snow theme. After each game, participants must submit a detailed report and confirmation in this thread. Also, the winner must add some kind of snow-themed picture to the report. Only in this case will the game be counted. 6. All games of the tournament go into the seasonal rating. A list of reports for the tournament will be located at the beginning of this topic. 7. The winner of the tournament will be awarded a medal under their avatar. 8. Organizers reserve the right to refuse participation to any participant without publicly explaining the reasons, as well as to make any changes to the regulations during the tournament. IV. Dates: Recruitment takes place until 02/18/16, or when 64 people have been reached. Tournament starts on 02/19/16. Game time - 2 weeks per round. V. Regulations The tournament will be held according to the Single Elimination system. The regulations may be adjusted based on the number of participants and their wishes. VI. Tournament History 01/24/2015 - 05/25/2015 First Snow, winner =Stinger=
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Hi-Tech
I apologize, we were playing in the environment I mentioned, and our save was at 126.
But the opponent can only play once a week.
That's why we couldn't finish the game on the weekend.
To extend the deadline for the tournament, you need to write something to the organizers in a private message. Silence is interpreted as not being in the player's favor.

For example, skd and Vigo kept me informed about their difficulties, so they were given time to finish the game.

I'm not a telepath, so I can't determine whether a player is silent because they've given up on the tournament, or because they are actively looking for an opportunity to finish it.

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p.s. Oh man, please don't tell me that everything is canceled, and I still have to play against the winner of Hi-Tech - Slaizer (((
No, it's not canceled.
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Toganash
Oppu has posted several times, but the responses so far have only been links to work or existing agreements.

I want to play! So what if I haven't replied or haven't been active – is that a criterion? Maybe I just check the internet less often, but the fact that I mentioned work or playing other games doesn't mean I can't say the same about you.
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yarik1987
I want to play! Well, whether or not I replied is a criterion? Maybe I just logged in less often, but the fact that I mentioned work or playing other games – I could say the same about you.

I couldn't resist after seeing this, and I don't care about keeping our conversation private anymore:

Toganash M (02/24/2016 19:33)
Hi

Toganash M (02/24/2016 19:33)
Let me know when we can play Second Snow.

yarik1987 (02/24/2016 19:43)
Hi

Toganash M (02/24/2016 19:43)
hi

yarik1987 (02/24/2016 19:43)
Okay

Toganash M (02/24/2016 19:43)
ok

Toganash M (02/24/2016 19:43)
Are you busy right now?

yarik1987 (02/24/2016 19:43)
Yes

Toganash M (02/24/2016 19:43)
ok

yarik1987 (02/24/2016 19:45)
I have half an hour.

Toganash M (02/24/2016 19:45)
For a game? That's not serious. ))

yarik1987 (02/24/2016 19:45)
Want to practice and then play a ranked match?

Toganash M (02/24/2016 19:45)
Nah, let's leave the ranked matches for later.

Toganash M (02/24/2016 19:45)
Later

Toganash M (02/24/2016 19:45)
Anyway, I'll probably forget everything.

yarik1987 (02/24/2016 19:45)
Well, I usually play on weekdays from 6 PM to 8:30 PM. My opponent didn't show up today.

Toganash M (02/24/2016 19:46)
I see.

yarik1987 (02/24/2016 19:46)
I'll probably be busy this weekend.

Toganash M (02/24/2016 19:46)
What about on weekends?

yarik1987 (02/24/2016 19:47)
I already made plans for tomorrow.

yarik1987 (02/24/2016 19:47)
For the evening.

Toganash M (02/24/2016 19:47)
ok gl

yarik1987 (02/24/2016 19:47)
Thanks

yarik1987 (02/24/2016 20:38)
I'm ready for SoD or WotG.

yarik1987 (02/24/2016 20:38)
In general.

yarik1987 (02/24/2016 20:39)
I don't want to play HotA.

Toganash M (02/24/2016 20:44)
ok, we'll talk later.

Toganash M (02/29/2016 10:19)
Hi, are you free?

yarik1987 (02/29/2016 10:53)
I'm working.

Toganash M (02/29/2016 10:55)
ok

Toganash M (03/01/2016 18:31)
Are you available today at 9 PM?

yarik1987 (03/01/2016 21:04)
No

Toganash M (03/01/2016 21:05)
ok

Toganash M (03/07/2016 23:13)
Hi, how about tomorrow? Do you want to play a tournament?

yarik1987 (03/08/2016 00:48)
Hi. I'm busy.

Toganash M (03/08/2016 00:54)
ok

Toganash M (03/14/2016 10:38)
Hi, are you going to play in the tournament? The deadline is approaching.

yarik1987 (03/14/2016 10:47)
Hi. I am.

yarik1987 (03/14/2016 10:47)
I have deadlines everywhere.

yarik1987 (03/14/2016 10:47)
I already arranged a blitz Jebus Cross game today.

Toganash M (03/14/2016 10:48)
ok

yarik1987 (03/14/2016 10:48)
Then in Novice.

yarik1987 (03/14/2016 10:48)
And then we can...

Toganash M (03/14/2016 10:48)
it might turn out that I'll be busy later.

yarik1987 (03/14/2016 10:49)
But is it convenient for you from 6 PM to 8:30 PM Moscow time?

Toganash M (03/14/2016 10:49)
It is possible.

Toganash M (03/14/2016 10:49)
but not today and not tomorrow.

yarik1987 (03/14/2016 10:49)
Yeah, okay.

Then I posted about this on the forum just in case, after seeing a message from the organizer about upcoming repressions, and it all went downhill:

yarik1987 (03/16/2016 14:09)
Hi

yarik1987 (03/16/2016 14:09)
How about today at 6 PM?

yarik1987 (03/16/2016 14:09)
Maybe even at 5 PM.

Toganash M (03/16/2016 14:09)
hi, are you talking about the Second Snow tournament?

yarik1987 (03/16/2016 14:10)
Yes

Toganash M (03/16/2016 14:10)
the deadline for the first round has passed, the organizer gave you a technical loss, I advanced further because you didn't warn him about anything, but I did.

yarik1987 (03/16/2016 14:11)
Wow

yarik1987 (03/16/2016 14:11)
Who is the organizer?

Toganash M (03/16/2016 14:11)
I'll send it to you now.

yarik1987 (03/16/2016 14:11)
Yeah, I believe that they wouldn't do that.

Toganash M (03/16/2016 14:12)
Oh yes, and very often, players must warn in advance.

Toganash M (03/16/2016 14:13)
/topic/11717/

yarik1987 (03/16/2016 14:13)
You could have written to me.

Toganash M (03/16/2016 14:13)
My post is #159 and the next one.

yarik1987 (03/16/2016 14:13) I didn't know. Toganash M (03/16/2016 14:14) What should I write? I wrote on the forum that we hadn't played, and that was it. The next day, Javdet contacted me and said that we would play with him. That's all. yarik1987 (03/16/2016 14:18) Is Dirty an organizer there? Toganash M (03/16/2016 14:19) Well, if he wrote about the penalties for not playing over the weekend, then probably yes. Take a look at who I quoted there. Toganash M (03/16/2016 14:19) I don't remember right now; I just haven't been in the game. Toganash M (03/16/2016 14:20) Timer. yarik1987 (03/16/2016 14:20) Okay. yarik1987 (03/16/2016 15:37) You wrote for the last two days that you couldn't. You could also get a loss with the same success. yarik1987 (03/16/2016 16:58) Let's play now. Toganash M (03/16/2016 17:59) I missed your message, but what's the point? I already played half the game with Javet. What should I tell him? It doesn't work like that. yarik1987 (03/16/2016 18:00) Well, I don't know why you did it that way. You didn't even write anything. yarik1987 (03/16/2016 18:00) If you win against me, then we can finish the game. Toganash M (03/16/2016 18:03) What did I do wrong? Seriously, you knew perfectly well about the deadlines. I wrote to you several times from the very beginning of the schedule about the game. Then the deadline passed, and seeing a message from the organizer on the forum, I reported on the situation, as required. Or should I keep running after you? You value your time, and so do I. yarik1987 (03/16/2016 18:04) But I think I wrote something on Monday. yarik1987 (03/16/2016 18:04) And you couldn't either. yarik1987 (03/16/2016 18:04) You could have said that the deadline was up, and then I would have played with you. Toganash M (03/16/2016 18:07) Let's not explain anything to me – everything is up to the organizers, right? Should I post all our ICQ chat logs on the forum? Why should I say anything and constantly write to you? And now, suddenly, you have time to communicate, play, and sort things out. It's not just you who misses games; it has happened to me too. It's frustrating, but that's how it is, and you brought it on yourself. If you're new, just know how this works for future reference. I'm not writing this out of spite, but I don't enjoy these kinds of arguments, and you should understand that. yarik1987 (03/16/2016 18:07) Why did you quietly write on the forum and give me a loss just because I didn't check? yarik1987 (03/16/2016 18:08) Okay. Toganash M (03/16/2016 18:08) What do you mean by "quietly"? yarik1987 (03/16/2016 18:08) Let's go through the organizers. Toganash M (03/16/2016 18:08) Was the forum closed to you or something? yarik1987 (03/16/2016 18:08) I didn't know you were going to write anything. yarik1987 (03/16/2016 18:09) I would have played if I had known it would be like this. Toganash M (03/16/2016 18:09) I acted according to the rules. All judges ask for this when deadlines are missed, or should I have kept running after you? Toganash M (03/16/2016 18:09) Or should I have remained silent and received a technical loss instead of you? )) yarik1987 (03/16/2016 18:11) You should have written to me that if I don't play, I will report it on the tournament forum. yarik1987 (03/16/2016 18:11) Because you couldn't always either, right? yarik1987 (03/16/2016 18:12) I'll play now; let's do as the organizers say. I also wrote in the tournament thread. When an opponent writes about this in ICQ:
"yarik1987 (03/16/2016 15:37)
For the last two days, you wrote that you couldn't. You could also get a loss with the same success,"
he perfectly understands that this refers to the last two evenings after my warning, and he easily agrees, so I don't understand what these manipulations are about.
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Guys, I'm not going to waste time after the tour figuring out who was right and who was wrong about not being able to play on time. I really won't. It's a thankless task, I don't have that much time, and frankly, I just can't be bothered. I didn't even bother reading this log because I need to rush home.

Therefore, purely formal criteria will be used:

1) If one player wrote something (even something like "Vasya, come play"), and the other didn't, then the first player gets a technical win. (this applies to Toganash and Yarick)

2) If both players wrote nothing, then it's a mutual technical loss. (this applies to Haitech and Slaizer)

3) If the players wrote something but couldn't agree on a time, then an Overdue Duel (ODD) is scheduled. (this applies to Skd and Vigo)

Points 1-2-3 apply to the period from the moment the host publishes the post announcing the list of debtors (usually 2-3 days before the end of the tour) to the moment of the next tour's draw.

4) If a player warns in advance (before the list of debtors is posted) about difficulties in playing the match or about the opponent's unethical behavior, then the issue is resolved individually.
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Wizard, are you there? Are you ready to play?
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In the first game, I secured control of the treasure in the satyr territory, and in the second, I took it. My opponent arrived there earlier but didn't scout. Thanks to Solmyr's quick air elementals, he made good use of the jumping ability, and by the end of the game, we outmaneuvered and outjumped the opponent. Having 2 towers and a hidden lair, I managed to accumulate 38 gold, without upgrading, but with 4 titans in the fortress. Just a day before the fortress battle, I killed Solmyr in a skirmish, forgetting that troglodytes in the Inferno territory don't have the +1 speed bonus: the warrior's lizards immediately defeated him in the first round. Luckily, I had wisely leveled up Kreg for the final battle, and he brought the victory.
Thanks for the game.
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Башня / Tower Faction Башня / Tower
Сольмир / Solmyr Start Hero Сольмир / Solmyr
Сольмир / Solmyr Main Hero Сольмир / Solmyr
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Башня / Tower Faction Башня / Tower
Аин / Aine Start Hero Аин / Aine
Аин / Aine Main Hero Аин / Aine
Map Template
8mm6a
Game Length
214 days
Game Date
3/17/2016
Reported
3/18/2016 10:34 PM
Rating Impact Archived
Toganash 1664 1678 +14 ↑
Javdet 1641 1627 -14 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 3/19/2016 7:06 AM

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Toganash
On the first map, I spotted control in the treasure zone behind the satyrs; on the second, I took it. The opponent arrived there earlier but didn't scout. Thanks to fast air leveling, Solmir made good use of jumps, and by the end of the game, we out-looted and out-jumped the opponent. Having 2 Towers and a naga external dwelling, I managed to amass 38 of them without upgrading, but with 4 titans in the FB. Literally one day before the FB, I killed Solmir during a skirmish, forgetting that underground troglodytes on Inferno terrain do not have the +1 speed bonus: the warrior lizards took him out immediately in the first round. It's a good thing I prudently leveled up Craig for the finale, who brought the victory.
Thx for the game.
The jump scroll turned out to be right under my nose. I never found TP, and couldn't build it either. In the end, the opponent capitalized on a huge lead. As for me, I got DD on the day of the battle. It was too late. Plus, Ivor leveled up like an idiot.

Thanks for the game.
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skd (Blue, Tower, Ain, Tan) def Vigo (Red, Tower, Solmir, Solmir) Diamond 131

The opponent didn't have time to finish the game. I'm writing this without the automated reporting system because the game wasn't actually finished. If it's important, I can resubmit it properly.
Thank you for your time.

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We cleared all the rest dwellings, the surrender reward is decent, with a logistician (though Kyrre also showed up for Cobra). Quite a bit of gold, 3 prisons (though all the troops are different), 3 Conflux villages allowed a decent push toward the computer's Dungeon with a bunch of magic upgrades. There was a KV behind the hydras, but things are tight with troop-producing objects, yet Artem loses with 76 fire elementals and a Garisson for an external dwelling of dragons. Thanks for the game.
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Башня / Tower Faction Башня / Tower
Аин / Aine Start Hero Аин / Aine
Десса / Dessa Main Hero Десса / Dessa
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Башня / Tower Faction Башня / Tower
Сольмир / Solmyr Start Hero Сольмир / Solmyr
Сольмир / Solmyr Main Hero Сольмир / Solmyr
Map Template
Diamond
Game Length
117 days
Game Date
3/26/2016
Reported
3/26/2016 4:52 PM
Rating Impact Archived
HellLighT 1844 1861 +17 ↑
KobRa_RR 1891 1874 -17 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 3/31/2016 4:44 PM

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There are 2 days left until the deadline. The following players have outstanding tasks:

WiZarDX_576 - Amster
YaR - flate
Loinz - skd

Please update us on your progress here or via private message.
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We started playing in Diamond league, there was a dispute about the match, and Wizard disappeared again and hasn't responded for a week:smile50:
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Vikk, the game is over, I’ll post the report soon.
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Elik made the decision. Thanks for the game! :D
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Башня / Tower Faction Башня / Tower
Сольмир / Solmyr Start Hero Сольмир / Solmyr
Корбак / Korbac Main Hero Корбак / Korbac
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Башня / Tower Faction Башня / Tower
Нила / Neela Start Hero Нила / Neela
Тазар / Tazar Main Hero Тазар / Tazar
Map Template
Jebus Cross
Game Length
137 days
Game Date
3/29/2016
Reported
3/29/2016 4:20 PM
Rating Impact Archived
R@sIM 1432 1449 +17 ↑
PutinKING 1503 1486 -17 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 3/29/2016 6:23 PM

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Elik won. Thanks for the game!:D

Thank you for the game!
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Started at -1700. Played without a respawn, although on turn 112 I realized I was completely blocked in two directions, thought for a long time about taking a respawn, but couldn't do it because of Gunnar, + there was a Griffin Conservatory visible behind the block and a Workshop near the town. On turn 117 Giants in the Castle.

Took the enemy's Dungeon and scouted his 2nd Griffin Conservatory, which Aislin took with 200+ Meteor Shower and 60 mana on turn 122. That same day, attacked 50-99 Corsairs in the Dungeon's treasure zone with Gunnar, for Boots of Speed + a mini-Dragon Fly Hive, where the Angel and Giant died (the Angel could have been saved). There were still moves left to run along the road, level up a bit, and then another 50-99 Corsairs were waiting, who were blocking the village. I decided not to engage them, but instead chose to break through one of the respawn blocks and take the enemy's Castle. On turn 127, Angels were built with the Castle.

Turn 132: I break into the Castle's treasure zone, which turned out to be small but contained 2 Dragon Fly Hives of 18 [creatures], 2 chests of 25k experience, a Shield +12, and a Scroll of Dimension Door. Meanwhile, Aislin, with Snake [artifacts]? wrecked [smth] in the super-treasure zone lift with Giants without [something], on the other side [were] powerful Liches. I didn't touch them, but rode further towards the Conservatory and the enemy's info. And Gunnar teleported to the Liches. In the treasure zone, he immediately used a Control scroll - Dimension Door and reached the end. The road wasn't very long, but the treasure zone was large. Accordingly, there was a choice on turn 136: capture the opponent's town or delve deeper into the treasure zone. I thought for a long time, eventually chose the first option, and even double-cast [Wait?] Spell and stayed overnight at his place — after all, there was a Scroll of Dimension Door, a 1.5k explosion with [something], 200 mana. On turn 137, I picked up a Dragon Utopia in the Dungeon's treasure zone, with [smth] and [smth], made 7 Archers and stayed the night there. On his turn, the opponent surrendered.

P.S. Took the Boots of Speed on the last day.


Battle Report Accepted
Синий / Blue
ЯR
Башня / Tower Faction Башня / Tower
Аин / Aine Start Hero Аин / Aine
Гуннар / Gunnar Main Hero Гуннар / Gunnar
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Башня / Tower Faction Башня / Tower
Нила / Neela Start Hero Нила / Neela
Нила / Neela Main Hero Нила / Neela
Map Template
Mini-Nostalgia
Game Length
141 days
Game Date
3/30/2016
Reported
3/30/2016 9:15 AM
Rating Impact Archived
ЯR 1582 1599 +17 ↑
flate 1653 1636 -17 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 3/31/2016 12:31 PM

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