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The Bible? Is it confirmed? YES, yes, and yes again! There's no time, and my internet is running out. I won't start with all the fulfilled historical prophecies (which you will interpret differently), or the historical accuracy (data about peoples, conquests, geographical maps), or the deep knowledge of the structure of the world (which they expressed in simple words, as best they could). For example, the Bible says that alongside humans, there were also large beasts (an accurate description of dinosaurs). Many excavations find traces of humans and dinosaurs in the same place, as well as mixed remains. "Let there be light!" Is that silly? More and more scientists are coming to the conclusion that light energy was the initiating factor of the Universe. If there was a layer of water above the Earth, creating a greenhouse effect, it would always be summer, and giant plants and animals would grow. In particular, three-meter-tall humans (there are finds) and giant reptiles (dinosaurs). This was called the firmament. Was Adam so intelligent that he could name all the animals? Are you aware that we use only 10% of our brain's capacity? Are you aware that the oxygen content was twice as high in percentage terms? And that the amount of oxygen directly affects health and mental activity? Are you aware that oxygen is still used for treatment (oxygen chambers)? In general, I'm leaving because I don't have time, but Ganymede, know that you know everything I know, read all the books, and you wouldn't say that creationism is not a science and you wouldn't dare to prove that even one line of the Bible is blatantly false. But I won't argue and try to bring you over to my side. No. We'll talk after death, although maybe I'll just pass by, as we will be on opposite sides. In about 50 years, I'd like to ask for your opinion, either on your deathbed or after. But not now, in the prime of your life, with your pride and egoism! Not now, dear Ganymede... To the others: I wanted you to at least think a little and use your brains. I managed to do that. The proof "I don't see it, so I don't know" is so often used by atheists in relation to religion that I decided to use it too, but only to show you how foolish it is. "There is no God - I haven't seen him" - this is what simple Christians often say when they can't find an answer. "Am I right when I say that I am wrong" - this is irrelevant in this situation. I just wanted to see if you believe in logic. If you do, then you shouldn't indulge in fantasies. There were no UFOs. If there are, then they are somewhere we can't reach yet. Is it worth starting a debate? If a Martian flies to you tomorrow, we'll open the topic right away.
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The Bible? Confirmed? YES, and yes again!
I don't have time, and my internet is running out.
I won't start with all the fulfilled historical prophecies (which you will interpret differently), or the historical accuracy (data about peoples, conquests, geographical map), or the deep knowledge of the structure of the world (which they expressed in simple words, as best they could). For example, the Bible says that alongside humans, there were also large animals (an accurate description of dinosaurs). Many excavations find traces of humans and dinosaurs in the same place, as well as mixed remains. "Let there be light!" Is that silly? More and more scientists are coming to the conclusion that light energy was the initiating factor of the Universe. If there was a layer of water above the Earth, creating a greenhouse effect, it would always be summer, and giant plants and animals would grow. In particular, three-meter-tall people (there are finds) and giant reptiles (dinosaurs). This was called the firmament. Was Adam so smart that he could name all the animals? Are you aware that we only use 10% of our brain's capacity? Are you aware that the oxygen content was twice as high in the past? And the amount of oxygen directly affects health and mental activity? Are you aware that oxygen is still used for treatment (oxygen chambers)?
In general, I'm leaving because I don't have time, but Ganymede, know that you know everything I know, read all the books, and you wouldn't say that creationism is not a science and you wouldn't dare to prove that even one line of the Bible is blatantly false. But I won't argue and try to bring you over to my side. No. We'll talk after death, although maybe I'll just pass you by, as we will be on opposite sides. In about 50 years, I'd like to ask for your opinion, either on your deathbed or after. But not now, in the prime of your life, with your pride and egoism! Not now, dear Ganymede...To the rest: I wanted you to at least think a little and use your brain. I succeeded. The proof "I don't see it, so I don't know" is so often used by atheists in relation to religion that I decided to use it too, but only to show you how foolish it is. "There is no God - I haven't seen him" - this is often said by simple Christians who can't find an answer.

"Am I right when I say that I am wrong" - this is irrelevant to the situation.
I just wanted to see if you believe in logic. If you do, then you shouldn't indulge in fantasies. There were no UFOs. If there are, then they are somewhere we can't reach yet. Is it worth starting a debate? If a Martian flies to you tomorrow, we will immediately open the topic.

I know all this perfectly well, dear Berserk, because, as strange as it may seem to you, I have read the Bible, and not just read it, but studied it. The fact that these people had knowledge is not surprising in itself. It seems to us that they were ignorant and stupid, but this is far from the truth. Many sciences were highly developed, people had a clear understanding of the phases of the moon and the sun, and they had calendars. Since ancient times, people have also possessed many arts, for example, iron forging, people knew copper and tin and knew how to work with them. So, everything that is written in the Bible, or much of it, at least, is also a reflection of an ancient civilization and, in many ways, of human wisdom. But... I meant the facts of "Divine revelation" when I asked whether the Bible was scientifically registered. Because your phrase had exactly this context in relation to aliens. That's why I asked such a question about the Bible. And you know perfectly well that no science will register this. This is a matter of faith... You believe in the Bible, others believe in alien civilizations.
Therefore, bringing science into this, in my opinion, is not entirely appropriate.
Настоящие герои - не те, пред кем мы преклоняемся, а те, кого мы оплевываем...[/COLOR]
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Guys, let's move all discussions about God, religions, and those "pardonable" atheists who don't believe in anything and just live for their own pleasure (not just them, by the way), the Bible, who "split" and who didn't, to a separate thread! And here, let's talk about alien races. By the way, a question for all of you: have any of you ever been a witness? And if so, what did "it" look like?


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Didn't play it. :)
(And another 100 people: Didn't play it)
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I wasn't :)
(And another 100 people: I wasn't)
Are you sure?:) I think there are many such people, they just stubbornly don't want to believe it, they try to explain everything with some kind of science and generally avoid talking about it. In other words, they program themselves. Well, never mind, otherwise we'll start going off-topic.;) So, people, don't be afraid that you'll be laughed at and told that you're crazy, speak up.:)


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I haven't, and I don't believe anyone else has either :)
Those were errors of perception, fantasies, etc.
At worst—elves or some such creatures :D:D
By the way, there was one interesting study on UFO descriptions; it compared them with descriptions of encounters with elves and other magical folk in folklore and medieval texts and... they were amazed. The similarity was striking—to the point that in medieval texts, before the appearance of own unholy forces, horses traveling along the road would stop, become frightened, and flatly refuse to move further, while in UFO descriptions, cars would break down and fail as they approached.
So if any such phenomena did exist, I'm more likely to believe that people saw spirits, elves, or unholy forces, which—due to their mindset—they perceived as aliens (in a high-tech style).
С Пути сбивают мелкие достижения, а изощрённые суждения скрывают смысл слов. И вот уже возникают "правильное" и "неправильное"...
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I haven't been, and I don't believe anyone has:)

Well, no one has been to paradise either, to confirm that it exists:)
Some people believe in paradise, and some believe in the existence of aliens.
There is evidence for both, but all of it can be considered "fantasy" to the same extent.
Настоящие герои - не те, пред кем мы преклоняемся, а те, кого мы оплевываем...[/COLOR]
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I never believed in it, and I don't think anyone else did either:)
These were perceptual errors, fantasies, and so on.
At worst, they were elves or some kind of similar creatures:D:D
By the way, there was an interesting study of UFO descriptions; it was compared with descriptions of encounters with elves and other magical beings in folklore and medieval texts, and... they were amazed. The similarity was striking - to the point that in medieval texts, before the appearance of evil forces, horses traveling on the road would stop, become frightened, and absolutely refuse to move further, while in UFO descriptions, cars would break down and fail when they approached.
So, if there were any such phenomena, I am more inclined to believe that people saw spirits, elves, or evil forces, which, due to their mindset, saw as aliens (in this high-tech style).
And I also read about alleged contacts of Russians with UFOs in the past. About a boy who was taken by some people in a "flying pot" (as funny as it sounds). And if you compare it with modern "testimonies" - it's all exactly the same... By the way, the boy was later returned to Earth...
Если тебе не везёт в жизни, - играй в какую-нибудь другую игру:rolleyes:
Лидер клана "Из многих единое"

Приключения – это сплошные неприятности, только про них почему-то потом интересно вспоминать...
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I believe in the existence of aliens. I once watched a show where they said that scientists had calculated the number of advanced extraterrestrial civilizations, and the result was over 1,000,000. But I don't believe they have visited Earth.
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And once again, we return to the question of faith...
Умирает не тот, кто устал, а тот, кто остановился.
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Silvanis;83348
I haven't and I don't believe that anyone has:
These were perceptual errors, fantasies, etc.
At worst, they were elves or some kind of creatures:D:D
By the way, there was an interesting study of UFO descriptions; it was compared with descriptions of encounters with elves and other magical creatures in folklore and medieval texts, and... they were amazed. The similarity was striking - to the point that in medieval texts, before the appearance of evil forces, horses traveling on the road would stop, get scared, and absolutely refuse to move further, while in UFO descriptions, cars would break down and fail when they approached.
So, if there were any such phenomena, I am more likely to believe that people saw spirits, elves, or evil forces, which, due to their mindset, saw as aliens (in that high-tech style).
So you believe in elves?:eek: Respect to you:)!

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Would you like me to tell you a funny story that my mom told me? So, she and her aunt, when they were children, were sitting on a bench in the village in the evening (it was already getting dark) and suddenly they saw: a bright, large star darting from side to side, and it was moving incredibly fast. My mom said that she would make the sign of the cross, and it would disappear. And it did. My mom drew a cross in the air, and it immediately disappeared. Believe it or not. And now, what do you think, can UFOs be linked to faith, God, and demons?:)


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Uzh na chto ja chelovek doverchivui, no v NLO ne very. I vse tut. Net, ia konechno ponimaiu, buli ochevidcu... No vot vopros — zachem inoplanetianam vozvrashat pohishennogo??? Nu propal chelovek, nu poishut... I zachem im tak naglo "svetitsa"???
Chesslovo, legche predpolozhut, chto eto "nasha", zemnaua nechist, shalit pomalenku...
P.S. Pochital S.Lema... Sovsem razuverilsa v inoplanetanah("Rasskazu o pilote Pirkse" Vot Vam, blin, i NLO:))




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Believing in God or UFOs is everyone's business. But here's what I'll say:
I have two opinions about the origin of UFOs. The first is that it's another civilization that is far more advanced than us. They are studying Earth and sometimes take people for detailed study. Why don't they make contact? If they make contact with us and tell us about themselves and their technology, we, as a lower species, will ask them for various technologies, and we won't pass the "evolutionary course." The second opinion is that UFOs are us. What if, in the future, our descendants managed to create a time machine, and the unidentified objects are that machine? Then it becomes clear why they don't make contact...
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My opinion is that nothing flies there... It's unlikely that anyone has seen any alien spacecraft. Of course, I'm not denying that there are intelligent beings and civilizations somewhere else; the universe is vast, and there are bound to be other intelligent beings like us. But I don't think they've reached us yet. Of course, anything is possible. But it seems to me that they can't live on the planets of the Solar System because we would have already noticed them. And if they live somewhere near Antares, it's interesting how long it will take them to reach us.
Step aside from the way of a better man than you
So you fall at his feet hes the one who betrays you
Its the servants devotion for the decay
Stand up

There are no flowers on your grave
There are no chains
There I keep chanting for the forgotten name © Amorphis
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Now, what do you think, can UFOs be linked to faith, God, and demons?
Of course, they can. There is even one version of what God is, based on the connection with aliens, which is not the most illogical, by the way. If extraterrestrial civilizations exist (and this is very likely, as is the fact that they do not exist), then it is not a fact that they are not at our level or a lower level of development. And if they can travel in space, then they may live so far away that they cannot reach us (it takes a very long time to fly thousands or tens of thousands of light-years). If they live relatively close, they could have flown here (let's assume that UFOs were true or not, but aliens did not show themselves), then it is probably just reconnaissance. But then it is strange why they have not revealed themselves for decades; perhaps these were several civilizations with similar levels of development. If their home planet is tens of thousands of light-years from Earth, and they still flew here, then this is either an incredibly developed civilization, or something like a "distant expedition." In any case, if aliens with spaceships exist and have flown to Earth, then in case of hostility, it is not impossible to defeat them (weapons of mass destruction, and even modern automatic weapons are not children's toys), and if they are at too high a level of development, so that we earthlings are unlikely to be able to do anything against them, then they probably do not need the Earth. Resources here will certainly be depleted in the foreseeable future, humanity cannot be the object of their hatred, and it also makes no sense for them to conduct experiments on us. In general, aliens may exist, but they are unlikely to be the infamous "flying saucers." I read that the photos with them are edited on a computer, and that this is done by not the last people in the same USA.

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Believing in God or in UFOs is everyone's business. But here's what I'll say:
I have two opinions about the origin of UFOs. The first is another civilization that is far ahead of us in development. They are studying the Earth and sometimes take people for detailed study. Why don't they make contact? If they make contact with us, they will tell us about themselves and their technologies. We, as a lower being, will ask them for various technologies, and we will not pass the "evolutionary course." The second opinion.
If this is a civilization that is far ahead of us in development, then it does not need to kidnap people for a detailed study of humanity.

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