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How will we go on from here?
49 voters
Multiple choice Public votes Closed 2015-08-12
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Allow combining moderation duties with membership in the Arbitration Committee
69.4% 34 votes
Prohibit combining moderation duties with membership in the Arbitration Committee
22.4% 11 votes
1 person is making changes to the ХВ rules
8.2% 4 votes
AK makes changes to the rules for Hv
46.9% 23 votes
Changes to the rules of Heroes & Might & Magic will be made after a general vote
38.8% 19 votes
The rules for official Tournaments are determined by their organizer
36.7% 18 votes
The rules for official Tournaments are part of the ХВ rules
57.1% 28 votes
Leave restart on block
63.3% 31 votes
Remove restart on block
32.7% 16 votes
You can start digging for the Grail from week 6
32.7% 16 votes
You can start digging for the Grail on week 1
63.3% 31 votes
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Offline Vigo
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Could someone remind me what the abbreviation "AK" stands for?
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!!
Но!...
Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...

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Offline dom2
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Actually, it might be worth giving Vic 2 (two) votes instead of one in all polls he participates in/creates. As a reward for his hard work!

We should consider creating a poll about this... Let's decide with a simple vote. Simple, for crying out loud!
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Как сделать так, чтобы в подписи картинка рейтинга была кликабельной?
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Vigo
Could someone remind me what the abbreviation "AK" stands for?
It stands for Kalashnikov Assault Rifle; I almost wrote Kalashnikov Automatic... :D
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And where is the option "Vik didn't get upset at all"? :D Or is it hidden in the topic title? :D
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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Mish, I'm talking about something else.
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!!
Но!...
Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...

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Lider1
Where is the point "Vik isn't even slightly annoyed?" :D Or is it hidden in the topic title? :D
Vik does so much useful stuff that he can be annoyed and even furious:cool:
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Why is digging allowed from the 5th week in the Graal poll, when the current rules only allow digging from the 6th week?
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question about the Grail: the "cross" marking the location where the Grail is buried was always in the middle of the picture, but they sent a picture where it's not in the center – has anyone else encountered this? I thought the "cross" was always in the center.
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Regarding the Grail.
I think it could be allowed to start digging for it from the first week, with this change:
- The cross on the map appears only after the entire map has been revealed, in any location on the map, and not strictly in the center.
This will minimize randomness and delay the Grail rush on small maps, and on large maps, it will eliminate the guessing game. For example, two obelisks are revealed, but with clear distinguishing features; the player sends a couple of heroes to the center of the presumed area and digs up the desired object in a few days - this is not ideal, in my opinion.
If it is technically feasible, I would be all for it.
In my opinion, the Grail is a classic element, and it shouldn't be nerfed.
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Offline MerlinTheMagician
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The_
Regarding the Grail.
I think it's possible to allow digging from the first week, with this change:
- The cross on the map appears only after the entire map has been explored, in any location on the map, not just in the center.
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The player sends a couple of heroes to the center of the supposed area and digs up the desired object in a few days - this doesn't seem right to me.
Lil. In this case, it would be necessary to reduce the number of obelisks required to open the map to 6, so that it makes some sense. As for your "change" - you won't even do it by the sixth week: because the game will be over by then.
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Spending several days digging is a loss of tempo. You still need to transport it and place it - and you put it there so nicely, but on the seventh day of the week, your opponent overwhelms you because while you were digging for the Grail, the opponent had already taken over the map.
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

"Совесть - она либо есть, либо её нет" (с) RedWhait HP
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Personally, I am in favor of completely removing the obelisks and, consequently, the Grail from the game. No matter what rules are invented regarding this, the Grail will still remain a disruptive element, reducing the competitiveness of our game. The speed at which the Grail is unearthed has absolutely no relation to skill.
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=Lizard=
The skill of digging for the Grail has absolutely no bearing on the game.
That's because you don't know how to dig for it.
Actually, we played an unforgettable series with Twaryna, where you could start digging for it from the first week. Ask him how many times the Grail was ultimately placed?
If we're talking about sportsmanship, then we should eliminate cons, hives, and utopias (because one player places 4 cons one after another on respawn, while the other has a couple of mini-hives; one player gets control in utopia, while the other gets a collection of sea creatures).
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

"Совесть - она либо есть, либо её нет" (с) RedWhait HP
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Lil. In this case, the number of obelisks required to unlock the map should be reduced to 6, so that it makes at least some sense. And with your "change," you won't even achieve that by the sixth week, because the game will be over by then.
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Spending several days on excavations is a loss of tempo. You still need to transport it and place it, and you put it there so nicely, but on the seventh day, your opponent overwhelms you because while you were digging for the Grail, the opponent had already taken over the map.
In the current version, do you need to visit absolutely all the obelisks on the map to unlock the full map, or is it enough to visit only some of them?

With my proposed option, you can reduce not the number of obelisks on the map, but the number of obelisks that need to be visited to obtain the map with the cross, to, say, 8-10 (and then fine-tune it during testing). The Grail should not be a means of achieving victory, but only one of the strategic options that can be used under certain circumstances, something like, "managed to win thanks to archdevils." There are very few such reports and games, but the strategic option exists, and the same applies to the Grail.
Spending several days on excavations is a loss of tempo – that's really "lame." Or do all 8 heroes, led by the boss, go on excavations? It's like an archaeological expedition. The "opponent comes on the 7th day" is also from the same category.
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Several days of excavation – that’s a loss of tempo, and that’s what’s really annoying. Or do you send all 8 heroes, led by the chieftain, to excavate? It’s like an archaeological expedition. And then the opponent shows up on day 7, it’s the same thing.
In general, the Grail makes sense to allow only on large, variable maps with a large number of zones.
And on such maps, the two heroes you sent to excavate will slow down the map processing by 15-25 percent.
It takes two days to excavate one Grail – to stand on the cell, then to dig: on average, you will dig, taking into account the radius of the crosshair from the center of the screen – about 10 days with two heroes. And then you still have to transport it...
So, do the math, accountant...

And here’s another important point about the Grail. The only case when it should not be possible to excavate it at all is if it is buried on the starting location of one of the players.
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

"Совесть - она либо есть, либо её нет" (с) RedWhait HP
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Sanin
Why is digging allowed from the 5th week in the Graal poll, when the rules currently allow digging from the 6th week?
Nag: :cool:

I immediately noticed this typo, but unfortunately, editing the starting post does not allow editing the options in the poll.

Therefore, "from the 5th week" should be read as "from the 6th week".
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