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Here's a question that's been bothering me. I'm a bit of a noob, I admit.
I've reached the Paragon map. Everything's going well, it's the 5th month, and I've reached the Orc lands. As always (with rare exceptions), my tactics revolve around blinding + Archangels with clones for army resurrection.
And then I encounter a strong Orc army, and I'm in trouble... I can blind them!
But I can't resurrect! The Cloak of Negation prevents me from casting clone and resurrection spells! And that's a real problem, because in theory, I could win this battle with almost no losses, but my army, without resurrection, isn't strong enough to adequately damage even one stack of the enemy.

My army consists of snipers (around 2.5k), Archangels (around 300), champions (around 400), fanatics, and monks. The enemy has Cyclops (around 800), Ancient Beasts (around 400), and some smaller units like 800+ birds, 12k wolves, and 200 Crystal Dragons.

If I want, there's a Castle within reach, behind whose walls I could try to defeat the enemy.

But maybe there's some specific tactic for playing against opponents with the Cloak? Perhaps certain artifacts or a specific way of commanding the army?
#2
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What are the expert elements of this companion? Does it have Earthquake, Expert Teleport, or Combat Magic? What level of Antimagic does it possess?
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#3
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Did you hear the question? What kind of antimagic are we talking about? If it's the Cloak of Negation!
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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#4
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Here is what the map author says.
Rincewind
In the battle with Yoragos, there is only one trick that will turn an impossible fight into a trivial one. But first, I advise you to gather as many archers as possible (and free Arianna!).
Rincewind
Many questions already have answers in the map's comments. Some have multiple answers.
If anything, we are talking about the comments here (there are as many as 331 of them).

From what I understand, I can tell you that you are on the right track. And you are almost there.
Lezenford
If desired, there is a Castle within reach, behind whose walls I can try to defeat the enemy.

But maybe there is some specific tactic when playing against opponents with a cloak? Perhaps artifacts or a special feature of playing with this army?
The solution is somewhere nearby. ;)

p.s. Well, if you still can't figure it out, browse the comments; the answer is there. p.p.s. I personally have not played the map and have never seen it.

В тихой однообразной жизни всегда так бывает: каждый отдельный день бесконечно долог, но месяцы и годы мчатся с непостижимой быстротой.

I wanted to offer you some flowers, but a crown would suit a princess like you much better

Смысл жизни в том, что жизнь на тебе не заканчивается
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Lezenford
I have a question that I'm a bit ashamed to ask, as it's quite basic.
I've reached the Paragon map. Everything is going well, it's the 5th month, and I've reached the Orcish lands. As always (with rare exceptions), my tactic revolves around blinding the enemy + using Archangels with clones to resurrect the army.
And then I encounter a strong Orcish army, and I get into trouble... I can blind them!
But is there a specific tactic for playing against opponents with the Cloak of Invisibility? Perhaps there are specific artifacts or gameplay features that are effective against them?
Here's a very good tactic specifically against Yoragos with the Cloak of Invisibility:
Capture the enemy Castle with a garrison of Crystal Dragons. If you're lucky, he'll leave his Red Dragons there, separate from his main army (there's a way to bypass him by walking on the water around Lomrok's Castle). Then, save the game and
end your turn. If Yoragos doesn't attack us, load the save and move all your troops into the garrison, leaving only your hero with 1 Archangel. Then, Yoragos will definitely attack.
Next, he attacks: his troops are all infantry, except for the Cyclops and the birds, so immediately blind the birds and use the Archangels to wait. Then, use archers to eliminate the Cyclops (Snipers and Wizards with the Golden Bow can eliminate his stacks of Cyclops in one round), and then the Archangels eliminate the catapult...
That's it - in the end, only the birds remain, so in the 2nd round, wait for his spell, and then use Mass Slow. In the 3rd round, eliminate the birds...
That's it - from the 4th round onwards, the fun begins: just sit in the Castle with all your troops and don't come out, while the archers and towers shoot down his troops...
I don't remember if he attacks with Lightning Bolt or Arrows...
If he does, there will be minimal losses; if not, then sitting behind the walls for 50+ rounds (don't forget to put on Shackles, and of course, buy a Supply Wagon) will bring complete victory