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It’s unlikely to work. At least, I doubt it.
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Machete
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I’m not trying to create a faction centered around a single unit. I’m trying to create a faction centered around a complete class of units. Why wouldn’t that work? There’s a demon faction, and it only contains demons, and no units from other factions! Angels need to be added, at least to provide a counterbalance.
I've got a hole in my pocket!
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Alex_R
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I'm not trying to create a faction around a single unit. I'm trying to create a faction around a complete class of units. Why wouldn't that work? There's a demon faction, and it only contains demons, and no one else! Angels need to be added, at least to provide a counterbalance.
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A faction around an angel could be created, but it would overlap
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If they overlap with humans, it won't be good for the other factions. It will result in two almost identical factions: Humans and Angels with Humans.
Alex Ghost
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I'm not trying to create a faction around a single unit. I'm trying to create a faction around a complete class of units. Why wouldn't that work? There's a demon faction, and it only contains demons, and no units from other factions! Angels need to be introduced, at least to provide a counterbalance.
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Saruman
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Why don't you like the Celestials? Although, based on the first description in the Monsters Manual, very little is actually clear.
Describing them in Russian:
Luminous Archon - simply a ball of light (lesser celestial)
Hound Archon - a red-skinned human with a dog's head. A demon hunter. Can transform into a hound.
Trumpet Archon - a classic angel with a trumpet. Herald and messenger of the Celestials.
Avoral - Celestial scouts with incredible visual acuity.
Gael - Celestial mages.
Astral Maiden - a beautiful woman in light clothing, a mage.
Solar and Planetary - the most powerful Celestials, winged giants, skilled warriors. The same for the Planetary's skin is green, while the Solar's is white.
By the way, the Celestial race is simply a heavenly race and has no relation to the angels and humans of Erathia and the Empire of the Griffin.
Describing them in Russian:
Luminous Archon - simply a ball of light (lesser celestial)
Hound Archon - a red-skinned human with a dog's head. A demon hunter. Can transform into a hound.
Trumpet Archon - a classic angel with a trumpet. Herald and messenger of the Celestials.
Avoral - Celestial scouts with incredible visual acuity.
Gael - Celestial mages.
Astral Maiden - a beautiful woman in light clothing, a mage.
Solar and Planetary - the most powerful Celestials, winged giants, skilled warriors. The same for the Planetary's skin is green, while the Solar's is white.
By the way, the Celestial race is simply a heavenly race and has no relation to the angels and humans of Erathia and the Empire of the Griffin.
Machete
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You correctly pointed out that it's the race of DEMONS, but not DEVILS. A demon is a pawn, while an Angel is an angel and cannot be a pawn...
Hey, celestial being!
Please don't take this as an insult, but again, all I can say is that you should read more books.
An Angel is a pawn, a pawn, the most pawn-like pawn (of the heavenly realm)!
How can it not be a pawn when it's the lowest rank? An Angel is the counterpart to a IMP or DEVIL, not a Devil. The Devil has his own counterpart!
I simply made a mistake by not detailing the units before creating the topic. Now I also don't have much time...
By the way, Valkyrie, modern angelology says that angels with wings don't exist. Although I understand that this is not in line with fantasy, and no one will do it. But some units may simply not use wings, due to... I don't know... They just don't want to.
P.S. Sorry if I offended anyone
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Alex_R
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Hey, celestial being!
Please don't take this as an insult, but once again, the only advice I can give is to read more books.
An angel is a pawn, a pawn, the most pawn-like pawn (of the heavenly realm)!
How can it not be a pawn when it's the lowest rank? An angel is a counterweight to a DEMON or DEVIL, not to the Devil himself. The Devil has his own counterweight!
I guess I'm to blame for not detailing the units before creating the topic. Now I also don't have much time...
By the way, Valkyrie, modern angelology says that angels with wings don't exist. Although I understand that this is not in line with the fantasy setting, and no one will do it. But some units may simply not use wings, due to... I don't know... They just don't want to.
P.S. Sorry if I offended anyone.
I don't hide the fact that I'm not interested in angels (I haven't read any special books), but I know enough to say that angels are pawns specifically in the heavenly realm!!! It's like saying that black caviar is an everyday dish (although it might be served at royal tables or somewhere else).
The Devil is also an angel (more precisely, an archangel), but he was cast out of the heavenly realm.
So, the Angel was and will be a counterweight to the Devil... and not to some demon or devil.
Theoretically, you could create an angel race where they would be pawns, but it wouldn't fit with the other races.
Imagine angels with stats similar to goblins, skeletons, hobbits, or fairies :smile07:
P.S. No one is offended by anything. It's just that, besides reading books, you need to be able to use what you've read.
Books are just information until it is properly organized in a person's mind.
Arandor
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if you're creating an angel race, it's not necessary for all creatures in the castle to be angels...
as mentioned above, you can have a wisp at level 1... and then various saints, priests, fanatics, etc.... and the last one can be an angel...
as mentioned above, you can have a wisp at level 1... and then various saints, priests, fanatics, etc.... and the last one can be an angel...
Be strong. Believe
gamehuntera
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By the way, Valkyrie, modern angelology says that angels don't have wings.
They do. Or did you mean the opposite? Then you're also wrong.
Silvanis
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In principle, I would suggest the opposite—not to create an angel race (remember, this word is written with one "s"; for those who know, please don't be offended!), but to remove the demon race.
A bit on etymology—the word demon came from Greek and originally denoted, as we know from Plato's records of Socrates, a side-child of the gods, but not from humans, rather from lower mythical creatures (nymphs, etc.). A demon was a positive being back then, but Christianity, in the process of its implementation, used such a dishonest method as the discredit of its opponents, and thereby declared all mythical creatures—and demons along with them—to be evil.
But that' same, just a little reference:)
As for removing these races, I believe it is necessary for two reasons:
1 - in theory, they should be disproportionately powerful
2 - their existence (especially angels) may be offensive and unpleasant for religious people
PS - but do not take these words to heart...
A bit on etymology—the word demon came from Greek and originally denoted, as we know from Plato's records of Socrates, a side-child of the gods, but not from humans, rather from lower mythical creatures (nymphs, etc.). A demon was a positive being back then, but Christianity, in the process of its implementation, used such a dishonest method as the discredit of its opponents, and thereby declared all mythical creatures—and demons along with them—to be evil.
But that' same, just a little reference:)
As for removing these races, I believe it is necessary for two reasons:
1 - in theory, they should be disproportionately powerful
2 - their existence (especially angels) may be offensive and unpleasant for religious people
PS - but do not take these words to heart...
С Пути сбивают мелкие достижения, а изощрённые суждения скрывают смысл слов. И вот уже возникают "правильное" и "неправильное"...
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gamehuntera
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A little about the etymology - the word "demon" comes from Greek and originally meant, as we know from Plato's writings about Socrates, a child of the gods, but not from humans, but from lower mythical creatures (nymphs, etc.). A demon was then a positive being, but Christianity, in the process of its introduction, used such an unfair method as discrediting its opponents, and thereby declared all mythical creatures - and demons along with them - as evil.
So what? Might & Magic and the real world, fantasy and everyday life are not connected. After all, there are some canons in fantasy, and one of them defines demons as evil. Or will you play as a race of small, inferior, and good demons? Unlikely.
1 - they should, in theory, be disproportionately powerful
In theory. But according to the same fantasy canons - not really.
2 - their existence (especially angels) may be offensive and unpleasant for religious people
Hmm... Angels are already in the game. What's next?
Silvanis
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Well, it seems a bit strange that they exist... But actually, it doesn't really matter.
P.S. - although, I remember being terrified that the upgraded archangel from "Wrath of the Gods" would be named "God"; I could just imagine myself discussing with someone "...no, the azure dragon is still cooler than God"... Brrr:mad: But in the end, it's my personal opinion. I'm not insisting on anything, I'm just presenting an alternative point of view.
P.P.S. - in my opinion, the presence of angels, especially female ones, in fantasy canons is a disgrace (this is just my opinion, and I would appreciate it if you didn't comment with something like "it really is your big opinion". I know. I've heard it many times already
P.S. - although, I remember being terrified that the upgraded archangel from "Wrath of the Gods" would be named "God"; I could just imagine myself discussing with someone "...no, the azure dragon is still cooler than God"... Brrr:mad: But in the end, it's my personal opinion. I'm not insisting on anything, I'm just presenting an alternative point of view.
P.P.S. - in my opinion, the presence of angels, especially female ones, in fantasy canons is a disgrace (this is just my opinion, and I would appreciate it if you didn't comment with something like "it really is your big opinion". I know. I've heard it many times already
С Пути сбивают мелкие достижения, а изощрённые суждения скрывают смысл слов. И вот уже возникают "правильное" и "неправильное"...
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Saruman Rainbow
No, I share your enthusiasm for forgotten kingdoms, but... the copyright holders will come after us:(
Vsadnitsa
Regarding the paladin race, let's do it! I'll support it! But you come up with the units yourself.
2Silvanis
Excellent, bravo!!! But... from a common sense perspective:( from a gameplay perspective, there's no one to counter the humans... + are there female angels in Heroes???
Arandor
And this will be Haven number 2. But with only archers.
Machete, you tried hard... but I don't see a single unit or a single sketch of the race itself... so I'll close the thread soon...
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Silvanis
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In Heroes, fortunately, it's not feminine. But in many games and books, it is; take Age of Wonders, for example.
С Пути сбивают мелкие достижения, а изощрённые суждения скрывают смысл слов. И вот уже возникают "правильное" и "неправильное"...
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