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Group stage tables.
Lim4
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bubuch
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Where should I send the save files with passwords?
Lim4
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Group B, you guys are amazing! :smile54:
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KobRa_RR
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Sanin and Stinger drew a grandmaster-level game, and if the result had been different, Pup would have advanced. Pup and the judges should pay attention!
They didn't arrange a draw; Sanin explained why he couldn't play, and he repeatedly wrote on the forum that he wanted to finish the game. Furthermore, match-fixing is not prohibited because no one knows how to combat it. :D
=Lizard=
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...match-fixing is not prohibited, because no one knows how to fight it. :D
It's very simple – prohibit draws with a save from earlier, for example, 141 (the time limit, of course, is up for discussion).
p.s. Since we're already on this topic, I'm also in favor of prioritizing in-person meetings!
Sanin
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Sanin and Stinger drew a grandmaster-level game, and if the result had been different, Pup would have advanced. Pup and the judges should pay attention!
Why do you think Berger is more important than the result of the head-to-head match? The tournament doesn't have any regulations; it's not written anywhere. He lost to both of us in the head-to-head match.
And the judges should pay attention to my repeated appeals to them, which have gone unanswered.
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It's very simple – prohibit draws with saves from earlier turns, for example, turn 141 (the time limit, of course, is up for discussion).
=Lizard=
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Let's sit down and play a game where we control a single hero and try to complete it in 20 minutes. What will you do? Will you say, "Oh, you haven't played properly; you just ran around with one hero and skipped turns"?
Well, it takes only 10 seconds to check such nonsense.
skd
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It is necessary to conduct group stages for all tournaments with a schedule for each round and to record the results after each round (as is done on Facebook), so that there is no situation where one player has played all 5 matches, and the other has played only one match, and then can calculate whether a draw with any of the players is acceptable or not.
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Well, checking such nonsense takes 10 seconds of work.
In my opinion, a draw can only happen in a case of "mosh pit" vs. "control" and when the game is already long and doesn't decide anything.
Dirty_Player
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p.s. Since we're on this topic, I also think that in-person meetings should be prioritized!
The judges should pay attention to my repeated appeals to them, which remained unanswered.
Where should I send the saves with passwords?
Group stages of all tournaments should be held with a schedule for each round and the results recorded after each round (as is done in FB), so that there is no situation where one player has played all 5 matches, and the second has played only one match, and then he can calculate whether a draw with any of the players suits him or not.
злой_романтик
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Yes, prearranged draws are a scourge of group stage games; the decision to introduce mandatory time limits for games seems like the only solution because it's practically impossible to fight against them – if two players want to draw, they will. In chess, there were attempts to eliminate "grandmaster draws" with the 30-move rule, but even that didn't yield results.
Another option is to award 3 points for a win and 1 point for a draw, which would reduce the value of draws, as in football, for example.
P.S. By the way, Tribuna is open again, so to avoid cluttering this thread and making things even more difficult for the only judge, we can continue the discussion there.
Another option is to award 3 points for a win and 1 point for a draw, which would reduce the value of draws, as in football, for example.
P.S. By the way, Tribuna is open again, so to avoid cluttering this thread and making things even more difficult for the only judge, we can continue the discussion there.
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Весна 2012.
Весна 2012.
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Interesting twist, so it turns out you can use the cost to secure a spot in the playoffs, or is it already guaranteed?
Lim4
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Interesting twist, so it turns out you can use cost to secure a spot in the playoffs, or is he already guaranteed to qualify?
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Why would head-to-head matches be better? If players have the same number of points, one wins against the other, but the second wins against the one who took 1st place, it seems to me that this is a much more significant achievement.
In all competitive sports, a head-to-head match is a priority when points are equal, as it shows which of the two rivals was stronger at that particular moment in that particular tournament. But the indicator "won against the one who took 1st place in the group" is much more subjective, because the group can be very evenly matched, and someone might just be luckier. I understand the meaning of Buchholz and Berger when finally distributing places (for example, at the CIS tournament, 5-7 people share 2nd place), but when comparing 2 specific rivals - what is this Berger about? Matches with other rivals have no meaning here.
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Have you started playing? Did you try to contact him? Did he try to contact you? If he ignores the game with both you and Palach, he will be disqualified.
After the 4th defeat, he didn't try anymore and was rarely online on ICQ. But he didn't write to me either.