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Offline Драккошка
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It still seems too vague to me. For example, it's obvious to me that there are two Ks in the middle of my nickname, and the nickname "Ney" is spelled with an "E," but some people don't seem to realize that at all.
А, вот почему.

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What could be less vague than what our eyes see? The word is obvious – it’s clear as day. I don’t know how else to express it in a less vague way.
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I remember when I was a journalist, I asked the question: "Do you know the minimum number of players that need to die for you to win?" I thought that only the killer (all living players minus one) and members of one of the mafia groups (all living players minus the living members of the gang minus an equal number of other players) would know this. The Game Master thought that no one knew this (because there were roles that deprived players of their voting rights, killed peaceful players, and blocked peaceful players, so it was not about how many players would die, but in what order they would die). The player answering thought that everyone knew this (for any player to win, all other players must die). As a result, a huge argument broke out after the game.
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Well, in my game, the maniac doesn't know that, because if he ends up alone with a priest, he loses).

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But in general, it's impossible to foresee everything. Or it is possible, but then the first post will turn into a volume of "War and Peace." All questions that arise during the process should be sent to me in a private message, and I will try to figure them out and explain.
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KindShaman
it’s **possible to include**, but then the first post will turn into a volume of “War and Peace.” All questions that arise during the process should be sent to me in a private message, and I will try to figure them out and explain.
AHA!!!!!! (c) Rabbit and Piglet

"The unwillingness to spend one's precious time on the first post is equivalent to disrespecting the players":smile29:
(c) a group of unidentified individuals from this forum:p
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2nd level: Kills all infected units.
3rd level: Kills a selected infected unit.
Could ND-3 be rewritten as "Kills selected infected units"?
It doesn't seem like it would make the skill too overpowered. Instead, it would gain the ability to earn a bonus for additional infection on both NDs, not just the second one.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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Sure, that's possible. By the way, so that the "maniac" knows who to kill, I'll probably have to send him a list of infected people at the beginning of each night; otherwise, it will be a bit strange if he decides to, say, kill an infected person named Petya, but it turns out that he was cured by a wizard the previous night. Otherwise, the "Nightmare Difficulty" will be completely pointless.
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Offline Драккошка
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In my games, I try to anticipate everything; otherwise, I provide commentary as the game progresses. Usually, my investigations proceed smoothly and are based on logical constructs from the school-level computer science course. To avoid being vague, I will present, in chronological order, my investigation guidelines for journalists. After all, I was the first to introduce and test this role on the forum. Perhaps it will be helpful.
Mafia 74
Investigation: The Game Master asks the selected player three questions, to which they must answer. Two answers are true, and one is false. It is forbidden to directly ask about the role and all the features associated with it, but questions related to the images and descriptions of the roles are allowed. The player being investigated must come up with a pseudonym under which their answers will be published in the newspaper.
Mafia 78
Maat Investigation: Two answers are true, and one is false. Questions are asked according to the following scheme: a question about the content of the player's profile, a question about any specific role (image and description), and a question about the player's alignment. The answers are published in the newspaper along with the target's real nickname and are slightly "obliterated," resulting in them being not entirely unambiguous, but the player being investigated must give a clear answer. It is forbidden to ask the same set of questions for two nights in a row; at least one question must be different.
Mafia 83
Night Action: Investigates the selected player. Two answers are true, and one is false; the order is random, but the answers to the Game Master must be unambiguous. No more than one question about the content of the player's profile, no more than two questions about specific roles (image and description), no more than two questions about alignment; other questions are prohibited. It is forbidden to ask the same set of questions more than once. The original nickname of the player being investigated and an "obliterated" interview are written in the newspaper.
The last version seems the best to me; I want to use it in my next game without changes.
To help the killer decide who to kill, I will probably have to send them a list of infected players at the beginning of each night.
Perfect! Or simply monitor the situation as it unfolds, and at the end of the night, report on how the infection progressed and who was cured.
А, вот почему.

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As soon as I wanted to impose a restriction on the journalist, something similar to the 3rd rule, Snowman stubbornly argued that this would weaken the journalist and that it would be enough to ensure that questions are not repeated by using synonymous formulations. But after the example of ovna666, I started thinking that a free journalist might ask such nonsense that it would be unclear what to do with it later. Although the Master was lucky; he had an adequate journalist who only used the loophole of synonymous questions.
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Yes, they are right, I was wrong. And it wasn't me who stubbornly insisted, but you gave up easily.
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I also considered giving the journalist a list of questions in advance, so he could choose which ones to ask. But that would be too harsh.
А, вот почему.

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I've made the corrections directly within the role. I'll also keep the restrictions on synonymity and obviousness.
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Yes, synonymity is good, but I still have problems with obviousness.
I remember when I was a journalist, I asked the question: "Do you know how many players need to die at a minimum for you to win?"
Here, everything was obvious to everyone, but in the end
such a mess arose after the game(((((
А, вот почему.

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Night Concert: Blocks 3 random targets regardless of gender.
Does it block *any* targets? Does it also block Somaphs?
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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It blocks absolutely any goals. Mages also appreciate art. Which, unlike beauty, requires not sacrifices, but listeners. Or, if they don't want to listen voluntarily, then listeners-sacrifices.

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Guys, let's play! Or we can start playing for the New Year according to the principle: How you celebrate the New Year, that's how you'll spend it. Exactly at 00:00 Moscow time :) :smile02:
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