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So, I'm not the only one who feels this way :)

You're not alone!
And the most amazing thing is the St. Sophia Cathedral... Nowhere else do I feel such a closeness to God as I do there.

I don't believe in God because he doesn't exist. And religion is a necessary opiate for the people. In the Middle Ages and in antiquity, it was one of the tools of governance. In our time, it serves as a carrier of culture and as a "last resort."

I believe in some kind of supernatural universal forces that we cannot comprehend. But they clearly don't resemble a kind old man in the sky or an evil devil under the ground. They don't even resemble Allah.

I don't believe in God because he doesn't exist.

And neither does the devil exist?:D

And there are no devils either?:D

Yeah. You know, there aren't even angels and demons. I've never even seen any legendary imps! :(

Yeah. You know, there aren't even angels and demons. I've never even seen legendary devils! :(

I've never seen wind in my life. Therefore, it doesn't exist. Well, the trees sway, and they sway, but I haven't seen the wind. Be realistic! There is no wind!:)

Let's not get carried away, shall we? ;) You can feel the wind. When a hurricane blows you away, you can scream as much as you want that you don't see it :D Besides, wind is perfectly explainable scientifically. But how can you scientifically justify God? It's impossible. Can you feel Him? That's also impossible. We can start singing the old song about God in the soul, about reverence, etc. But why do some people have it, and others don't? By the way, I was baptized, and my family is all religious (fortunately, without fanaticism). I've known how to pray since childhood, and I read the Bible a long time ago. But all of this seems like such naive nonsense to me that it's beyond belief. By the way, here's another logical paradox: Christianity isn't that ancient a religion. How is it that people in ancient times knew nothing about the God who created them all? They worshiped Ra, Zeus, and Odin, firmly believing that their gods existed and that they were the ones who created everything. And some Mugais danced in front of these people, claiming that they were wrong. Of course, in those days, they didn't mess around with non-believers and quickly impaled them. Time passes, but nothing changes. Except that no one will mutilate me for my freedom of conscience :D

You can definitely feel the presence of God. It's given to everyone, but how can you feel God if you don't believe in Him? :) True, it's impossible to explain God scientifically, but you yourself said that you don't deny the existence of supernatural forces, right? So, explain scientifically why every year, at the same time, fire descends from the sky to a specific place, and it doesn't burn. And, please, explain scientifically how sick, old, and weak people, almost naked, climb into an ice hole with water so cold that it can cause brain freeze, and not only do they not catch a cold, but they are healed and don't get sick for the whole year! Christianity did appear 2007 years ago, when Jesus Christ was born. Hence the name "Christ - Christianity." Before that, there was Judaism, which still exists. Either you haven't read the Bible, or you've read it "superficially" (although I haven't read much of the Bible myself, I know this). That's why prophets and preachers are needed – to spread the word of God. Humanity has spread across the earth. The story of the "golden calf" showed how easily people can fall into heresy. On one hand, they wanted to thank God, but as a result, they created something incomprehensible and began to worship it. As you can see, this story has been repeated many times and continues to repeat itself in the form of various sects. Regarding the wind – you're right. You can shout as much as you want that God doesn't exist, but He won't disappear because of it. :) P.S. The fact that your parents are not fanatics is, of course, good, but I suddenly became curious: what does fanaticism mean to you?

I haven't seen any fire falling from the sky, nor have I seen any dying old men who bathed and immediately came back to life. There are tons of such "legends," and for the most part, they're nonsense. And if you think that Christianity originated 2007 years ago, then I feel sorry for you. It certainly didn't start with him as a baby. If he even existed at all. And there are plenty of prophets and preachers around even now. What if one of them is actually right? And what if this sect is actually Christianity, and the true religion is some form of Taoism? Sure – for tens of thousands of years, there were no prophets, and everyone had their own pagan religions, and then they suddenly appeared. Along with a surge of ideas among slaves and the lower classes. What is fanaticism? Well, it's when a person becomes overly obsessed with religion and starts to follow all its rules, forgetting that they live in the 21st century, when they don't respect the views of other people and start proving the existence of all sorts of divine miracles. I've already met such a girl. She's 22 years old, but she looks like a 50-year-old woman. Fanaticism doesn't lead to anything good. Oh! A few years ago, some Christian sect members came to my place. I asked them – if, as they explained to me, God sits in heaven, then why don't airplanes crash into him? :D You had to see how they were taken aback, as they didn't know what to answer.

To be honest, this topic isn't entirely appropriate for the forum. I probably agree with what Andrey wanted to say. Look for yourselves – he made a joke (perhaps not a very good one), and you immediately piled on with disapproval. Historically, it's been proven that nothing divides people as much as the issue of faith. :smile38: In this regard, the argument between Mugais and Wizom is a good example; arguments on this topic don't lead to anything good...

Maguis, you haven't seen fire, but it descends to the same place every year, on the same day, and thousands of people witness it:)

Specifically, 2007 years ago, because Jesus was born, as the first Christian.

Regarding fanaticism, I basically agree with you, but in my opinion, a fanatic is not someone who proves the correctness of their faith. Rather, it's a preacher. According to your logic, it turns out that we are both fanatics:D I am a Christian, and you are an atheist:) But if a person starts to impose their religion and insists that it is the only correct one, no matter what, then that is a fanatic, IMHO.

Regarding sectarians, are they Jehovah's Witnesses by any chance?:) You can make fun of them endlessly. They simply memorize certain passages from the Bible, go door-to-door, and then it begins: "Our God is this and that, because as it is written: 'tra-ta-ta'," and all other religions are false, because as it is written, "tra-ta-ta." I don't know exactly where it is written, but some believe that God has a name, and it is Jehovah, and that's how Jehovah's Witnesses came about. In their opinion, the end of the world has long since come, and we are all living in hell now:D When I was two years old, Jehovah's Witnesses came to my mother (she had recently converted to Christianity at the time). She opened the door, and they started: "tra-ta-ta-tra-ta-ta-tra-ta-ta." My mother saw that they were Christians, and she was happy and said to one of them, "Sister!" They immediately fell silent, and one of them suddenly asked, "What is God's name?" My mother, without hesitation and with reverence, replied, "Jesus Christ!" And the sectarians immediately left...:D

Regarding heaven and airplanes, it's funny, but the idea that God lives in heaven is complete nonsense, although who knows... But the preconceived notion that Paradise is clouds and meadows with flowers... Personally, I don't think that's the case. It's just that when they said that it was good in Paradise, people probably started thinking about it, and that's how this "prototype of Paradise" came about. For me personally, it's a country house, a garden, and playing knights with stick swords with friends (childhood memories).

Archer, I understand you, so I've already sent a message to the Creator to create a separate section for philosophy and everything related to it.

P.S. Now the times have changed, and people are divided not so much by the question of faith as by the question of politics;)

Mmm... I'm pleasantly surprised by such an answer :) Regarding fire from the sky, I have a bit of ufological experience and there are quite a lot of anomalous places. This is something that science cannot explain yet. But then again, thunderstorms used to be considered manifestations of divine wrath :p

I don't believe in God, but I have nothing against religion as such. Orthodoxy is an integral part of Russian culture and we should be proud of it. But believing everything said in the Bible is going too far. Even my acquaintances who do believe don't take the Bible seriously.

As for cultists, yes. Broken people and terrible demagogues. In the autumn, some Krishnaites occupied the exits of several metro stations and were pushing some books on everyone. But divine wrath fell upon them in the form of a police squad :D

Every person creates their own Heaven and Hell. Unfortunately, to understand what Heaven is, one must tumble around in Hell for quite a while. Otherwise, nothing good will come of it.

I'm not going to discuss this topic because it's IMO (in my opinion) and a matter of personal belief. People have been trying to explain it to each other for over 3000 years. I personally believe that "YES, God exists."

Ink is right, I admit honestly, I understood from Mugais's first post that the argument would lead nowhere (I just really love arguments and discussions;)), because religious arguments never lead to anything. If there were a person here who believed in Zeus, Artemis, etc., he would provide the same compelling arguments as Herald, AlexeyPunk, or Mugais. And you could argue with him for a very, very long time.

Exactly 2007 years ago, because Jesus was born as the first Christian.

2007 years ago, shepherds and wise men came to worship Him.

Jehovah's Witnesses are a separate topic; they don't consider Jesus Christ to be God and write about the Holy Spirit with a lowercase letter.

I have a friend who's a pagan – he believes in Perun :) And he fiercely hates Christianity. He thinks that the ultimate absurdity is to abandon one's native religion in favor of a religion "imposed by Jews."