Mafia 81. Maw of the Abyss. — Mafia

Shamrock Rover

3/18/2014 8:52 PM UTC

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Evil Lizard

So, you believed the evidence against the leader and voted for me. The World wouldn't likely do that, considering the chance of being targeted next. Now you claim I'm not the leader, but a Mafia member. Why am I suddenly Mafia, but not the one the evidence pointed to?:confused:

Hmm, well, the evidence was more like a pretext for casting a vote. And then the situation unfolded in such a way that you don't seem peaceful to me. But, of course, you shouldn't fully trust the evidence; it's a delicate matter.
Regarding the possibility of being targeted next if we execute the leader, I won't be too upset, but the others should decide for themselves whether to take the risk or not.

Arandor

3/18/2014 9:48 PM UTC

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The clue seems alright, and the previous Mafia games were successful in this regard. I'll decide in the morning.

Be strong. Believe

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Злобный Ящур

3/18/2014 10:11 PM UTC

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Arandor

The clue seems pretty normal.

Arandor is sus.:(

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Shamrock Rover

And then the situation developed in such a way that you don't seem peaceful to me.

And what exactly did I do???:confused:

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).

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Shamrock Rover

3/18/2014 10:30 PM UTC

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Evil Lizard

What have I done to deserve this???:confused:

I remember you being more proactive as a Peaceful player, looking for Mafia and asking tricky questions. But here, you just threw accusations at those who suspected you, and that was it. If you were a Peaceful player, I think we would already know who the murderer is. That's the difference.

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Злобный Ящур

3/18/2014 10:43 PM UTC

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Shamrock Rover

I remember him as being more proactive.

Hmm... That Yashur is gone now.:smile38: Life is easier for most without my services, you know.

Shamrock Rover

He asked tricky questions. But here, he just threw accusations at those who suspect you, and that's all.

I asked Ursula a question. I presented an argument in favor of "Paddy." There's also evidence. What else is needed?;) The evidence isn't convincing? It might be wrong, but there are too many coincidences for Ursula. But I haven't noticed anyone taking my counter-arguments against the law of conservation into account.:mad:

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).

Arandor

3/18/2014 10:49 PM UTC

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Yashchur gets so hilariously angry and defends himself! You almost don't want to defeat him, just to keep watching his cute emotes.

Be strong. Believe

Злобный Ящур

3/18/2014 10:54 PM UTC

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Rather, tell me, do you seriously think that Ursula's clue about me is true?
If so, then why is my clue about her any worse?
And do you agree about the Dalmatians?
And do you agree that the clue + "Paddy" + the possibility of the person being questioned being a lord is too many coincidences?
A?:smile19:

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).

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Shamrock Rover

3/18/2014 11:07 PM UTC

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Grumpy Lizard

Ehh... That Lizard is gone now.:smile38: Life is easier for most without my services, you know.

Hmm, even so.

Grumpy Lizard

I asked Ursula a question. I presented an argument in favor of "Paddy." I also have a clue. What else is needed?;) Is the clue not satisfactory? Perhaps it is incorrect, but there are too many coincidences for Ursula. But I haven't noticed anyone taking my counterarguments against the law of conservation into account.:mad:

Exactly, especially after Ursula's outburst directed at you. And then you focused only on those who suspected you. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but it's strange to ignore the others.

Regarding "Paddy." I disagree with you. The decryption is too subtle, and I don't really believe that Ursula would sign it that way. For some reason.

Your counterarguments may be good, but this is still a clue, and scientific rigor may not be observed here. And the law of conservation of energy is one of the most famous laws of conservation, after all. So there is a connection, and the clue itself seems well-crafted, in my opinion. Although, overall, it's still a bit weak, but it's better than nothing.

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0xFF

3/18/2014 11:08 PM UTC

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Evil Lizard

Ehh... That Lizard is no more.:smile38: Life is easier for most without my services, you know.

I asked Ursula a question. I presented an argument in favor of "Paddy." There is also evidence. What else is needed?;) Is the evidence not convincing? Perhaps it is incorrect, but there are too many coincidences for Ursula. But I haven't noticed anyone taking my counterarguments against the law of conservation into account.:mad:

Well, your arguments against the law of conservation are not very convincing, because I am sure that the evidence is invented associatively: law of conservation (of anything) -> law of conservation of energy -> etc.
Paddy is not Ursula, but Shamrock. http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%82,_%D0%9F%D1%8D%D0%B4%D0%B4%D0%B8
In general, I don't really believe in the evidence, and Shamrock's excessive confidence, along with the interview, is suspicious

Arandor

3/18/2014 11:09 PM UTC

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Well, she often guesses the clues correctly. There seems to be a pattern in the clues as well.
Yours is more complex, in my opinion. And why didn't you explain to Ursula how you figured her out? Or did I miss that part? I only remember Ursula from The Little Mermaid.
Coincidences don't always indicate Mafia, sometimes they really are just coincidences.

Be strong. Believe

Злобный Ящур

3/18/2014 11:29 PM UTC

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Shamrock Rover

Exactly, especially after Ursula's outburst directed at you.

She simply got ahead of everyone. :(

Shamrock Rover

And then you only focused on those who suspected you.

1. Did the Overlord get killed? Yes. Well, there's the Brunhilda option, but I don't believe it. :smile27:
2. Let's assume the clue is correct, and I am the one. What do you do? You cast a vote on me. In my understanding, the world would suggest blocking, not hanging. Executing the leader equals merging two worlds with a high probability. Only someone who definitely knows the true leader, i.e., the Mafia, can suggest hanging.

Shamrock Rover

Your counterarguments might be good, but this is still a clue, so scientific rigor might not be observed.

Yes, yes, someone once tried to equate a magnetar with a black hole. :smile10:

0xFF

Paddy is not Ursula, but Shamrock. http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C...B4%D0%B8

Hmm... Maybe. Which only confirms my assumption about his Mafia affiliation. :smile04:

Arandor

Well, she often guesses the clues correctly.

But not now. :p

Arandor

And why didn't you explain to Ursula how you arrived at her?

What's there to explain? As usual, through the profile.

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).

Нэйко

3/18/2014 11:40 PM UTC

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Neyra, everything’s bad, they don’t kill, they just block, those bastards.
How are yours doing?
And why are you so quiet?
And why only one corpse? You killed so many, where’s the loot?

Sometimes I understand your pain, especially regarding the blocking.
Mine are doing better than yours; no one bothered me.
It’s hard to say about the quietness; I already have a mountain of messages here from tonight.
The others are afraid to kill. There’s evidence.

Графомания путешественника

Злобный Ящур

3/18/2014 11:41 PM UTC

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By the way, how many Neutral Development points do the Mages get per night?

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.
(Закон сохранения).

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Shamrock Rover

3/19/2014 1:10 AM UTC

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Evil Lizard

2. Let's assume the evidence is correct and I am the one. What do you do? You cast a vote against me. In my understanding, the community would suggest blocking, not executing.

Well, in your understanding.

Evil Lizard

Yes, yes, someone once tried to equate a magnetar with a black hole. :smile10:

I don't remember anyone directly equating a magnetar with a black hole. But the essence remains the same; I still believe that scientific rigor in evidence is not necessary. Not everyone is as smart as you. "Law of Conservation" is "Law of Conservation," the connection is quite acceptable.

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In short, execute someone suspicious, or things will get worse.

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Cancel the vote against Lizard. NNV.

That's more correct, after all.

Ursula

3/19/2014 5:47 AM UTC

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I can cancel my vote if needed. But I don't understand what blocking will achieve when there are 5 powerful Mafia members in the game. Even if they switch roles, will the town be any safer?

Какую бы чушь ты не нес, в ней всегда есть крупица правды.