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Lider1

12 years ago

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hyppocampus

1. Where can I find champion streams and replays? I want to learn from the source of ancient wisdom and see how skilled players build their strategies, for example. Commentary during the game would be desirable but not necessary.

For example, here: http://heroes3.tv/ Follow the streams of Maretti, Stinger, and Gomunguls. In general, watch the broadcasts. Right now, Twaryna is playing; it's worth watching. And here you can watch his past broadcasts endlessly: http://ru.twitch.tv/twaryna/profile/pastBroadcasts

hyppocampus

2. Is there a guide or dictionary of slang and terms used in Heroes somewhere?

There was something like that: this idiotic topic where everyone called units whatever they wanted, but this isn't really used in gaming slang. This makes its usefulness almost zero. There were also some good posts: 1 2 3 4, but they got lost among a bunch of nonsense.

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hyppocampus

12 years ago

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Lider1

for example, here is http://heroes3.tv/. Watch the streams of Maretti, Stinger, and Gomunguls. And in general, watch the broadcasts. For instance, Twaryna is playing right now; it's worth watching. But you can find their past broadcasts here: http://ru.twitch.tv/twaryna/profile/pastBroadcasts

There was a rather idiotic topic where everyone called units whatever they wanted, but this isn't really used in gaming slang. This makes its usefulness almost zero. There were some good posts there too: 1 2 3 4, but they got lost among a bunch of nonsense.

Thank you!
We will continue working.

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Sloth_D

12 years ago

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hyppocampus

Thank you!
I haven't played Heroes with real people for several years, and now I have the opportunity, so I decided to see how far the global community has come.

I was just blown away by this suggestion :smile52:

As for the questions, I can recommend what I used to get acquainted with Heroes -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXSsTVYKKjM

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Stomper

12 years ago

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Sloth_D

You're not quite right. In Nagabanka, the Nagas wait for one turn if you place a wall right next to them. Then you place a second wall one cell away, and they move to burn through both walls.

It's a bit strange there. 2-hex stacks don't see a unit hidden behind a single wall of fire, provided there are no two free cells next to the unit from the wall or obstacles that they could move to and attack, so they wait and defend. BUT as soon as a second wall appears nearby, they immediately "see" and rush towards both walls, taking damage. This trick doesn't work with single-hex units; they always see. In reality, the situation with the wait and defense of 2-hex units is somewhat more general, but I haven't fully figured out their behavior yet. :(

It's also very fun to kill groups of Pit Fiends with a wall. If there's a corpse next to a unit surrounded by a wall, when the Pit Fiends raise a demon from it, the demon first manages to attack and then takes damage. :smile51:

Белендор

12 years ago

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How to solve the problem of gold and defense disappearing from a hero when their values are high?

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Lider1

12 years ago

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Belendor

how to solve the problem of gold and defense disappearing from the hero when their values are high?

You can easily solve the gold problem by monitoring the counter and, when it starts to reset (before that day), exchanging a lot of gold for other resources – crystals, dragon stones, sulfur, mercury, etc. – to reduce the counter slightly so it doesn't reset to zero. This is better than simply having 0.

As for defense, I don't know.

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mrshch

12 years ago

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And who can explain the case with the wolves? The wall was not near the fairy, but near the wolves, yet the regular wolves moved, while the upgraded ones stood still until the effect wore off.

hyppocampus

12 years ago

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Another batch of silly questions)
1. What are the most popular maps in multiplayer right now, what are people playing? I want something more dynamic and less resource-rich than Jebus. Can you recommend some L-sized or M+u maps with a slight resource shortage?
2. I've seen the opinion that you need to complete the Grand Order on day 121 in Jebus, and if you don't, you've missed the boat. Or does this mean that you should aim for this, at least in offline mode, and in a real tournament, it will depend on how things turn out? In what percentage of games do top players complete the Grand Order on day 121?
3. Restarts. How to do them, when to do them, is there a topic on this?

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Lider1

12 years ago

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hyppocampus

The second batch of silly questions)
1. What are the most popular templates in Multiplayer right now, what is everyone playing? I want something more dynamic and less resource-rich than Jebus Cross. Can you recommend some L or M+u builds with a slight resource shortage?

Well, you answered your own question; there's currently a pandemic: it’s all about Jebus Cross.
Actually, if you want other, more engaging templates, then those are the same m200 builds. But luck plays a very big role there, and it depends heavily on how well you do early game. There's also a template called "balance," but its author is clearly trolling because there's hardly any balance to be found. You can also try "fir tree" for example.

hyppocampus

2. I have repeatedly seen the opinion that you need to complete the Gauntlet of Trials (GOT) using Jebus Cross on day 121, and anyone who doesn't make it has missed their chance. Or does this mean that you should strive for this, at least offline, while in a real tournament, things will unfold as they may? In what percentage of games among top players does completing the GOT occur on day 121?

Reaching day 121 in SoD is excellent. Generally, reaching up to day 123 is considered good.

hyppocampus

3. Restarts. How to do them, when to do them, is there a topic about this?

Just read the rules. 111+111+111 or 112+111 or 113.

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hyppocampus

12 years ago

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Lider1

Just read the rules. 111+111+111 or 112+111 or 113.

No, no, no, I did read it.
Before the topics with the official rules, I naturally checked them first. The question wasn't about the rules, but about the tactics of restarts.
I meant something else: general recommendations on when it's worth going for a restart, and when it's worth gritting your teeth and playing a mediocre position.

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Niemand

12 years ago

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If you like the map – play it. If you don’t – restart.

Lider1

12 years ago

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hyppocampus, GoedenDag is right. There are no clear definitions of when to restart and when not to. It's more of a gut feeling. Of course, many players try to time their restarts to get a good outcome, but there are also cases where they end up regretting it. Restarts were originally intended to allow players to replay an unplayable situation, but some interpret them differently... :D
So, it's up to you to decide, at your own risk.

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Dirty_Player

12 years ago

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Lider1

hyppocampus, GoedenDag is right. There are no clear definitions of when to reset or not. It's more of a gut feeling.

Actually, there are some definitions, but it comes with experience and understanding of the pattern. Every map has a certain average, workable layout (abstractly, but still). With a lot of gameplay on a map, you can determine how much a particular run is better or worse than the average. Although, again, each case is individual, and in a bad scenario, you can still get to the second place and find a lot of resources and 6 artifacts.

Lider1

12 years ago

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That's exactly why each case is unique. Of course, if you have a "Jebus" as your starting town, it's terrible, but if you have a starting town that's as weak as a "poor Jebus," then it's great.
But sometimes you start playing something that seems unclear, and in the end, it turns out to be amazing. Or you start with something that seems pretty good based on what you see, but then it turns out to be completely awful. It's hard to predict.

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But now everything comes down to resources and connections.
So, if you see 3 connections near a castle, it's definitely worth playing there :D

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hyppocampus

12 years ago

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Yeah, thanks. Basically, it's the same as always – there are no universally good recipes. Okay, we'll play around with templates and see what happens. I'll play a couple of templates, then I'll try to get into the seasonal ladder – I guess it will be clearer there.

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