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Offline Captain
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Who can provide info on mirror matches?
I'm curious, if both players have a Treant or a Griffin Conservatory, do they both get the same number of monsters?
And is the amount of resources the same? For example, one player might have 6 wood while the other has 9, causing the first to fall short and need to spend moves on gathering more. That would create an imbalance.
Well, and the biggest imbalance comes from hero-boosting structures...
Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.
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Who can provide info on mirrors?
I'm curious, if there's a skill tree, or a Griffin Conservatory, do both players have the same number of monsters?
And is the amount of resources the same? For example, one may have 6 wood, while another has 9, and because of that the first won't have enough and will have to spend moves on additional gathering. That would create an imbalance.
And the biggest imbalance is in hero leveling trees...
The contents of banks and stacks are the same. The leveling trees are also the same (if starting with identical heroes).
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Does anyone have information about mirror matches?
I'm curious, if both players have a tree of life or a tree of knowledge, do they both have the same number of monsters?
And do they have the same amount of resources? For example, one player might have 6 wood, while the other has 9, and because of this, the first player won't have enough and will have to spend movement points on gathering more. This would create an imbalance.
And the biggest imbalance is with the trees that boost hero stats...
Sasha, read the manual; after 2 years, people have probably thought about the things you're asking about. It's synchronized down to the contents of the necropolises; you can start with the same heroes (or different ones), and in the latest versions, they will have the same skill tree.
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Therefore, it's necessary to look at the statistics of the season mode, and preferably without tournament games (where the template is set by the host or quickly created). I haven't calculated it exactly, but it seems that Jeb and CM combined will account for more than half of the games.
The example with the season mode is also not entirely successful. Often, when playing season mode, many want to play quickly and without saving, which is why CMs, Jebs, and M200 appear, while HLs are less common.
For example, you can take the statistics of the "King of the Mountain" tournament, where there was a more or less free choice of templates.
1) Jebus Cross — 19
2) 8mm6a — 14
3) 6lm10a — 13
4) 2SM4d(3) — 8
5) Mini-Nostalgia — 7
6) 8xm12a — 5
7) balance — 4
The distance is not large, but I think that this approximately corresponds to current preferences.
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Offline Roger DAltavilla
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If a player registers for a tournament, they agree to use a set of templates proposed by the organizer. If you register for, say, Diamond Monster, it means you are interested in that template. This is also a free choice.
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Offline theShevanesian
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lm-ка, it was like a sudden burst! It's a bit strange, even in SOD, I think one-sidedness complicates the game.
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The LM map is quite popular right now; I personally like it the most out of all the HL+U maps.
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Весна 2014.
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Roger DAltavilla
If a player registers for a tournament, they agree to a set of templates proposed by the organizer. If you register for, say, Diamond Monster, it means you are interested in that template. This is also a free choice.
No, not necessarily. In Diamond and Goat tournaments, most people registered without knowing what it was. With Vik, most tournaments are under the slogan: let's try to figure it out, is it interesting or not.
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No, it's not necessary. In Diamond and Goatpen, most people signed up without knowing what it was. With Vik, most tournaments were under the slogan: let's try to figure it out, is it interesting or not.
Signing up for a tournament means wanting to try a template. Whether this choice was well-considered or influenced by emotions doesn't matter. Some people like to try new things, and some don't.
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Redwhait HP

but many would just like to bullshit, especially the Leader, who is shitting himself, but he probably won't even show up.

Listen, red and white, make sure you don't shit yourself in the boss's hands. You're a scrawny 70 kg.
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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Sash, read the manual; in the past two years, people have probably already considered the things you're asking about. It's synchronized down to the contents of the dungeons; you can start with identical heroes (or different ones), and in the latest versions, they will even have the same skill tree.
Thanks for the answer. Where is this manual?
I couldn't find it on the website, even in the Templates section.

In my opinion, if you know about this, it's easier to implement. I already like the idea of mirrored maps.
Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.
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Are you planning to come to the CIS region? (I haven't seen much enthusiasm from you). If yes, then by all means, stand up for your point of view. If not, it's better to move to the sidelines and just chat there as much as you like.
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Redwhait HP
Are you planning to come to the CIS region? (I haven't seen much enthusiasm from you). If yes, then by all means, stand up for your point of view. If not, then it's better to move to the sidelines and just chat there.
Reddy, that's a good response for someone who weighs 70 kg :)
Although, I always thought you weighed 55 kg:rolleyes:
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By the way, anarchy could also be added to the SOD set (start with any castle, without a black dragon, to guarantee a diplomat).
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If there's a Jebus-style scheme, then panic/balance templates should be included for the warlock. Let him also cause some trouble :smile51:
no, you guys deal with it :smile38:


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so, does the weight category matter here too???:D
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