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#5099
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"No time to explain!" Check out this page, for example: A billion people personally executed by Stalin
Воскресайте, камінні душі, Розчиняйте серця і чоло, Щоб не сказали Про вас грядущі: їх на землі не було…
(Василь Симоненко. Люди – прекрасні)
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Satyr
It's strange that no one living in Ukraine has recognized Stalin as a messiah here on the forum yet. Strange. Everyone knows that he... "Kobra chimes in and spouts his red nonsense"... and we don't understand this, and we're even tearing down monuments to dictators that they put up themselves. It's a miracle.

It's obvious that Ukraine is full of idiots. Without their own brains. And the only salvation for it is that Moscow should rule it!
You're already being pushed towards this idea in one way or another, but you just don't understand it, you're stuck with your monuments and that's it.
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Lider1
It's obvious that Ukraine is full of idiots. They have no brains of their own. And the only way for it to be saved is if Moscow rules it!
Our land is vast and abundant, but there is no order in it; come and rule over us.
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GoedenDag
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And he mastered it on the cold floor (C)
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Lider1
What a lousy name! People weren't afraid of him, but of the special units that stood behind and shot their OWN. When they tried to escape the battlefield. Don't embarrass yourself with such statements. Or finish what you started.
Come on, you're an intelligent person, whose will do you think the NKVD special units and the others were carrying out?!

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JustObserver
Tell me, I don't know, maybe at least one of them actually fought for the Motherland?
My great-grandfather died in the war! So let's not do this, okay?!

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Lider1
And there wasn't a famine in 1933, right? They just dispossessed the kulaks.
Well, if we're going to evaluate leaders of the past in this way, then here's a question: when, in the past, do you consider someone to be "cool" or whatever you want to call it?! YOU name someone :) And I'll tell you what's ugly about them:cool: You can criticize anyone like that. It's like the laws in any country - they can't be perfect; they either satisfy the majority of the population (but a minority will still be unhappy and will form an opposition), or they satisfy a smaller group, or even just the authorities, a couple of people! And the degree of dissatisfaction will be even clearer in the end

лето 2012.
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darkello
so, here's a tricky question: which figure from the past do you consider "cool," or however you'd like to call it? You name him, and I'll tell you what's ugly about him :cool: You can criticize anyone that way.

It reminds me of a recent argument between Vik and Peterius, when I was still reading what they wrote. Vik suggested that Peterius provide arguments so that he could then criticize them point by point.

My answer is: I don't idealize anyone.

But to elevate a person who killed millions of his own people (without a war) to the rank of a "cool guy" is, shall we say, somewhat foolish.
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#5105
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Chingis
Dear baratorch!

Thank you for your great work on improving HD Mode.

But with all due respect, this is just cosmetic. Cool, but still cosmetic.

Will you make the most important improvement? Please make a mirror (mirror template)?

Many people are asking you to do this.



Listen more to those armchair critics, oh great hero player :smile12:
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#5106
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Romych! Configure your Quip; no one can reach you! I've already written to you in a private message, but you don't respond! Your teammate, RR.
Каждое поражение-навоз успеха!Герои как жизнь: непредсказуемы как городская маршрутка ,капризны как наши женщины,увлекательны как рыбалка в период нереста ,коварны и отвратительны если мышкой движет слюнявый читер! всё в них есть и это.......

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KobRa_RR
I heard Satir's point of view. Basically, the person doesn't understand that he is alive now thanks to someone, that he is actually ALIVE, and not serving, living a miserable existence, or even being a slave... so... I can only ask, who else thinks the same way? :D

Artem, I heard this last in school. Perhaps this propaganda is relevant for children, perhaps for Russians. But trying to convince Ukrainians of this is a Sisyphean task. These horror stories about slavery, mines, etc. are just ridiculous. The Germans came and simply changed the signs on the city councils. The people waited and thought that maybe things would get better; Ukrainians are used to that, but no, when people realized that the German was no better than the Muscovite, and even worse, partisan movements began to form. But not for Stalin, but specifically for the Motherland, they chose the lesser of two evils. This was a major mistake by Hitler; his position towards the indigenous population was too harsh and short-sighted, and this partly led to his downfall.
The monuments have outlived their time; if they represent any value in Ukraine, it is only for the "systemic" generation that clings to the past. They just need to stay with this generation for a while longer, and then they will inevitably fall into dust.
Хаос - это порядок, которым сложнее управлять.

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Heaven forbid I should try to persuade anyone; everyone is an adult and decides for themselves what principles to live by. As promised, I will only refute any nonsense... For Pyotr, since we know each other personally, I will use a different, hopefully non-offensive, phrasing—misconceptions. )) Specifically regarding slavery: right here http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BD_%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD_%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A1%D0%A0_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%83_%D0%B2_%D0%93%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8E
And in many other places. What Hitler specifically wanted to do with the Russian people can be found in open access http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD_%D0%9E%D1%81%D1%82
and here about you
In the same section, the official dwells on the future fate of Ukrainians and Belarusians. He notes that according to the plan, about 65 % of Ukrainians will be resettled in Siberia. The same is planned for Belarusians, but 75 % will be resettled, while 25 % "are subject to Germanization." As for Czechs, 50 % are subject to eviction and 50 % to Germanization.
I honestly don't know if he would have bothered to figure out whether you were Eastern or Western Ukrainians)))))))


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I'm aware of the situation with the Ost-Arbeiter (forced laborers); my ancestors fought and worked there, and they told many stories about it. It was a consequence of the circumstances; the Germans simply had no other choice, so it was a temporary phenomenon. As for all those plans, well, they remained just plans, especially considering that, from an economic point of view, the plan to relocate a large portion of the population was incredibly foolish.
In short, Temych isn't effective; it's not worth it. Everyone has their own opinion.
Хаос - это порядок, которым сложнее управлять.

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#5110
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Here's something to get us started: http://vz.ru/news/2014/1/10/667408.html ))))
Pushkov: After the agreement with the EU, instead of Victory Day parades in Kyiv, they will start holding gay parades.


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KobRa_RR
Then, just to stir things up: http://vz.ru/news/2014/1/10/667408.html ))))
Pushkov: After the agreement with the EU, instead of Victory Day parades in Kyiv, gay parades will begin.
And... what next? ٩(̾●̮̮̃̾•̃̾)۶

What aspect of this topic concerns you?
Or are you worried that you won't be there?
Or will you be there, but are you just testing the waters and gauging public opinion?
Where is the analysis? Where are the comments?
Why is only a source from a publisher – an ideologue of the "For Putin!" campaign – cited, with its slogans "die for Russia" and "take 30 liberals with you"?
And what feelings should this article evoke? What should we do?

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Defenders of the rights of sexual minorities decided to join the Euromaidan
50 participants stated their desire to take part in the action.
The amount in words: fifty. What a large-scale action! ;) Everyone should know about this!
For now, this is a symbolic action.
That's what I thought.
During the discussion of the situation in Ukraine, the issue of the rights of homosexuals has already been raised. Prime Minister Mykola Azarov stated that before Ukraine is allowed into the EU, it will have to "legalize same-sex marriage and adopt a law on the equality of sexual minorities."
What?! Really? :eek:
And here's another news item from there:
German Olympians urged to declare themselves gay in Sochi
The German Lesbian and Gay Association has issued an appeal to members of the German Olympic team, urging them to declare themselves representatives of sexual minorities during the Winter Olympics in Sochi...
the appeal suggests a wording that German Olympians can use to express their solidarity with representatives of Russian sexual minorities.
"As a free person, I say: in a country where lesbians and gays are persecuted, I am also gay, I am also a lesbian. I declare this because I stand for the right of all people to freely express their own opinion, to equal treatment, to respect for their love. Oppression and violence against minorities, on the contrary, make all of us unfree. It is necessary to abandon censorship and laws aimed at suppression. Any society will only benefit when our lesbian sisters and our gay brothers can live in conditions of freedom, equal treatment and respect."
Well, of course, because in Russia and Ukraine, there are no more problems left – only to equate gays and lesbians in rights with other citizens! :)
You can guess the political leaning of this newspaper by looking at the headline of the news on the left: "... Jack the Ripper – one of the creators of a unified British nation" :D
Воскресайте, камінні душі, Розчиняйте серця і чоло, Щоб не сказали Про вас грядущі: їх на землі не було…
(Василь Симоненко. Люди – прекрасні)
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Kobra tried to spread the idea that Europe is a very bad place. Nonsense, Misha, start over. Rear-wheel drive isn't the right approach for this; they'll send them home several times, and they'll disappear on their own. Let's talk about NATO instead.
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