Posts from CIS-2014 in Minsk. Auto-translated

Well, a "Zekralo" template is a must-have. It's currently the most spectacular and well-balanced template. This is essentially the main (and almost the last) argument used by VT players in their debates with SOD players.
As an alternative, I see the possibility of adding another set of VT templates with SOD settings – for example, h3dm1, 6lm10, and diamond – and then choosing from 9 templates.

-8mm6a, there have already been many complaints about this template for the LAN, -a mirror match is basically easier to just take one type of template and use it, and a coin toss will decide which version to play (if you can't agree on a SOD for Warlords)... no need to reinvent the wheel, I don't think the Warlords players will be disadvantaged, you are already the majority, and besides, you are also the TOP PLAYERS!

The CIS region without mirrors doesn't really seem to fit with the main tournament of the Heroes community, at least not for me. :)
Another option would be to give the Warlord Tournament players only the mirror map, and the SOD players the standard set of templates. Then, flip a coin to decide which version to use: if it's Warlord, we play the mirror map; if it's SOD, we use the standard map.

Yeah, it feels a bit strange without mirrors. 8mm6 and LM are also better for playing VT – it’s faster and more dynamic. And maybe Diamond. That’s just my opinion.

Yeah, it feels a bit strange without mirrors. 8mm6 and LM are also better to play in VT – it’s faster and more dynamic. And maybe, Diamond. That’s my opinion.

In Odessa, there was a VT 8mm6 match... three months of gameplay... 20 real hours.
Don’t repeat the mistakes; they didn’t enjoy it.

LeBron, Shevanesian, Hell, are you planning to go to Minsk?

Here is one option: a "three-sided coin" (for example, using maps) determines whether it's SoD, WT under SoD, or full WT.

In the case of full WT: a pure mirror of x3dm1.

In the case of WT under SoD: same as Jebus Cross, 8mm6a, diamond.

In the case of SoD: same as one of 5 templates proposed by the SoD community.

p.s. Full-WT 8mm6a often proves to be more dynamic and faster in terms of real time than Jebus Cross in SoD. Plus, there will obviously be no timers like 5K+600; offline Tournaments rules should be close to blitzes. The SoD 16+8+1 and/or WT 4K+500 are just right. There will also be no three game months etc. In every single game without exception, Day D will be set: 231, by which time FB must be completed or a win will be awarded based on the save.

p.p.s. Specially to Cap: you really are quite bold constantly;) . Come visit, I'll pour you some moonshine, and you'll love WT;) .

3 game months — isn't that Preds with Scorpiona? So they played SoD) You have to be really dedicated to play that much in WT... I remember, a few times I went into a heavy farm with an uneven start against average players, but good players simply won't let you farm that much... The three-way coin flip option is also not bad. Personally, for me, who plays both, any options that don't boil down to SoD balances and SMKs are fine. In principle, playing SoD Jebus Cross, Diamond, WT mirror match, and MM6/LM in WT-under-SoD for a tournament would be a normal option)

SM-ka for SoD is also a bad idea (only if maps are checked in advance, otherwise it could be a waste of time), and the mirror, gentlemen, needs practice. If not full, then at least for SoD.

I would suggest the following option

SoD - Diamond, m200, Mini-nosta, +1/+2 (so that SoD has equality in templates)

VT for SoD - SM-ka, Jeb, mm6

Mirror - Full
I think the version can always be agreed upon on the spot.

The SoD players will have equality/advantage in templates, and the VT player will have a choice of which template to play for SoD.

The training base in pictures and in reality are 2 different things; this could be confirmed in a positive way during Odessa, although it looks quite interesting.

VT should only be left for the mirror (and even then, under SOD), and XL+U should be removed from the tournament altogether!

In general, VT in the form it was in Odessa was completely unsuitable for gameplay due to a huge number of synchronization issues, crashes, glitches, and bugs. Many games were not finished because of this. What has changed in VT since then? Is there a guarantee that VT will work properly?

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3 game months - isn't that Preds with Scorpion?

No, it's Lizard with Scorpion. Although the game ended in the middle of the second month, if my memory serves me correctly.

VT should only be left for the mirror match (and even then, with SOD), and XL+U should be removed from the tournament altogether!

I don't think we should completely remove XL+U; after all, the CIS region without Heroes of Might and Magic VI seems a bit strange. But we could reduce the limit a bit for this purpose.
I think most of the problems with VT should be resolved if we use the HD mod, but I'm not sure how it will work with the mirror match.

Regarding the resort: it seems to be about 30 km from Minsk. Are there any closer options so that those who want to can take a day trip to Minsk for sightseeing? Or is there good transport links to the city?

playing HL+U on Sylvan is even more absurd... it's better to play with Warlock, even with its desynchronization issues, than to wander around in fruitless attempts to gain control with one-sided matchups...

I would suggest the following:

SOD - Diamond, m200, Mini-Nosta, +1/+2 (to ensure SOD has template parity)

WT under SOD - Sm-ka, Jeb, mm6

Mirror - Full
We can always agree on the version on the spot, I think.

SOD players will have parity/advantage in templates, and the WT player will have the option to choose which template to play on in SOD.

For now, I like Zhenya's option the most. I don't see any major drawbacks or imbalances.

The location is indeed 30km from Minsk. That's half an hour to the city center. The distances here aren't as vast as in Russia. And the additional advantages are obvious: nature, significantly lower prices for comparable quality compared to the city center, etc. I chose based on a combination of factors and spent more than a day on it. I guarantee that, in terms of characteristics/price/quality, this is, if not the best, then one of the best options in Minsk and its surroundings.

CIS without VAT or without a mirror/MM6 is no longer CIS, and I'm sorry... and the attitude towards it (the tournament) will be accordingly. It is better to address questions about the duration of games to VIK, he is an expert). I will add that with a rebuildable tower, there are usually no questions, and if you want to prolong the game, you can do it on the same Jobu without any problems! (Kostya Lizard will confirm)).
As for the versions, this is already a traditional and pointless dispute. In Odessa, we played with Tanya (and with those who were not very familiar with full-VAT) normally on SOD or VAT under SOD. In general, we made concessions, we are not villains! If, by some miracle, an equal number of people who want to play SOD/VAT gather, then we can determine the version by bidding, Stinger or I will gladly play SOD for a small fee, there are no problems at all! We just need to ask Baratortcha to add the possibility of a randomizer with bidding to May, or at least just the possibility of transferring money to 111, as is done in VAT!

P.S. I played 4 games in Odessa in full-VAT, there were no desynchronizations, perhaps the HD-MOD saved us)

LeBron, Shevanyan, Hel, are you planning to go to Minsk?

Right now, I see a 30% chance of me attending the event.