The Fall of Shanti — Maps: Tribes of the East

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13 years ago

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Well, I don't know about what kind of aliens, but who do you think founded Shantiri? Maybe someone came from Enroth, started the Empire, and then left.

Quote from that website (it's official, as it's "might-and-magic.ubi.com"):

From the Spirit World, the Dragon Gods send visions to their mortal servants, guiding them in the performance of rituals. This leads to the founding of the Shantiri Empire, uniting all six Ancient races into one people. The Shantiri spread throughout the world, building huge cities and temples.

It seems that it is directly stated that the Dragons helped their creations unite, and then, after the War of the Ancients, they abandoned the whole thing.

Who are the Faceless anyway? I suddenly realized that I have absolutely no idea about this...

One of the six Ancient races, created by Malassa.

Heroist

13 years ago

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1) Yes, my mistake, my memory isn't what it used to be...

2) Yes, it was my mistake too, I read it somewhere, and I kind of suspected as much.

So, what happens is that dragons initially participate normally in the life of Ashan, and then the minions of Elrath and Malassa start wars, during which all the dragons quarrel, ignore Ashan, and leave the poor children to fend for themselves against the treacherous creatures of Urgash? Hmm, Ashan certainly created some unfortunate allies for herself.

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13 years ago

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So, what happens is, first the dragons participate normally in the life of Ashan, then the minions of Elrath and Malassa start wars, during which all the dragons quarrel, ignore Ashan, and leave the poor children alone with the treacherous creatures of Urgash. Hmm, Ashan has certainly created some unfortunate allies for herself.

Ash herself isn't any better.

Heroist

13 years ago

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I agree. One Urgash is good... He should have won, and there would have been peace without wars, only demons running around...

antonag07

13 years ago

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I read the thread, and at first, I was hesitant to start the map, fearing that after a long break from the game, I would have to play on "Warrior" or even "Recruit" difficulty. However, Tas'Netil isn't as scary as people say, even on "Veteran" (I think it's quite passable on "Hero" as well). Towards the end, I "forgot" to give my mentor Skilled Spellcasting with Skilled Logistics, replacing it with Leadership and Attack. I didn't encounter any of the difficulties described by forum users – the knights are just knights (all battles were won without losses). The only place where I had to think and browse the spellbook was the battle with Laura, a secondary druid (fifty succubi against two hundred angels). Overall, I enjoyed the map – it's just a shame that I didn't see the promised hardcore experience :smile20:

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Heroist

13 years ago

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Congratulations, Veteran ;). But there wasn't any hardcore difficulty (many people wrote that) ;)

How many days did it take you to complete, if it's not a secret? (Unfortunately, I can't view saves right now).
Regarding the Knights - how did you do it without any losses? There's a Castle there, it's bound to inflict some losses, or did you take a Tent?

antonag07

13 years ago

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According to the "Hall of Fame" - 97 days, 3594 points, "Thunderer".
There were no losses anywhere (including during the assault on the human Castle), a "Tent", as well as any machinery, is clearly useless with such armies (a simple "Resurrection" did the trick) - and that's even though I didn't take ents or dancers into battle.
Losses occurred only in the penultimate final battle - it would have been possible to complete this fight cleanly too, but I was already too lazy to replay it.

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Heroist

Congratulations, Veteran ;).
Regarding the Knight - how so, without losses? There is a castle there; it will definitely cause losses, or did you take a tent?

By the way, I uploaded the replay of the human Castle assault above (attachment Tallis.sav) - everything is perfectly obvious there ;)

Heroist

13 years ago

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Oh, my bad, I wrote nonsense again, not

Heroist

saves are currently impossible to view, alas

but

Heroist

~~saves~~ replays are currently impossible to view, alas

Though, actually, saves too.

Damn, I guess I'm the only noob who played without resurrection ;)

antonag07

13 years ago

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I tried it with a "hero" – the result was 90 days, 4479 points, "Thunderstrike". In principle, it can still be improved – in particular, I forgot about the Tear (I dug it up 3 weeks later), and I was hoping to buy a quiver in the shops – but it turned out pretty well even without it.

GodRick

13 years ago

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Very good map. It’s a pity that there are no Nagas in Heroes of Might and Magic V; they could have been included in the scenario’s events instead of just mentioning that they left for the ocean.

Waldersee

13 years ago

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This is the best map I've seen. Interesting plot, beautiful cutscenes. I can't really judge the difficulty. But you definitely have to think while playing. I hope this map isn't the last one)))

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Special thanks for the Nags!

NİKOLAY

13 years ago

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I enjoyed playing this map after a long break. Many thanks to the author for creating it!

Вiаrа

12 years ago

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I really enjoyed everything, but because of a bug, I couldn't see the ending. The bug is as follows: I free the Sorceress from prison, go to the ritual site, watch the cutscene, and then the hero "teleports" back to their original location in the circle, and I can't do anything else. Instead of the cursor, there's an hourglass, and the only way to exit the game is by pressing Alt+F4. Also, according to the plot, there are Dark Elves on the map, but they should only appear during the Time of Bitter Ash, which was much later than the fall of Shantiri, or am I mistaken? Please correct me, or is everything written incorrectly on the official website?
I approached the secondary hero to Druid Tas Netilu (I think that's his name), and he disappeared again, and the same thing happened - nothing else happens, and I can't do anything. It seems that this is because of him.

Eleondor

12 years ago

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I finished the campaign, and I really enjoyed it. The only problem was the feathered angels... But, to be fair, I won in a fair fight, albeit with some losses. However, in the end, I defeated Laura not with troops, but purely with magic and a couple of spells.
In principle, it would be great if they made something similar, but only with Sareth and a map with AI allies.

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12 years ago

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According to the plot, there are Dark Elves on the map, who supposedly only appear during the Time of Bitter Ash War, which was much later than the fall of Shantiri, or am I mistaken? Please correct me, or is everything written incorrectly on the official website?

That's right; there were no Dark Elves in Shantiri. This map uses their units, but they are not considered a Dark Elf faction; rather, they are simply adepts of Dark magic (the elves of Vol'diel, who live in Haven, are adepts of Chaos magic).

I liked it very much, but because of a bug, I couldn't see the end. The bug is as follows: I free the sorceress from prison, go to the ritual site, watch the cutscene, after which the hero "Town Portal" teleports back to his place in the circle, and I can't do anything else; instead of the cursor, there is an hourglass, and you can only exit the game using Alt+F4.

I approached the secondary hero to Druid Tas Netilu (if that's how it's spelled); he disappeared again, and the same thing happened – nothing happens next, and nothing can be done; apparently, this is due to him.

What version of the game do you have? Does the console display anything?