Tactics for the Stronghold. — Tactics

KycoK_3a6opa

1/15/2013 1:47 PM UTC

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I think it's not a good idea to upgrade birds before the second week; it's better to build an Ogre or Orc Fortress, although birds are good for a quick boost.

But I think building an Ogre or Orc Fortress in the first week is a complete waste!
Because, in my opinion, it's much better to build a Monster Den and a Castle in the first week, take one or two monster stacks, and upgrade them in the city on the first day of the second week.
The result will be 6 or 9 upgraded behemoths on 1.2.1. With 9 behemoths, you can confidently venture into the Treasury, and along the way, grab a couple of resource stacks (if you're lucky, you might get maxed out), and angels are always a good addition!
In my opinion, this approach is much more advantageous than Ogres and Orcs, which are not very useful in Dungeons, Confluxes, and the Treasury!

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Lider1

1/15/2013 1:52 PM UTC

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KycoK_3a6opa

and on the 1st day of the second week, upgrade them in the town.
The result on 1.2.1 will be 6 or 9 upgraded behemoths.

And how often do you upgrade creatures on 121?

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Lie catcher

1/15/2013 2:22 PM UTC

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2 KycoK_3a6opa
wolves, birds, critters, a Citadel, and a Castle are essential for a Stronghold in the first week; I won't argue with that. You can also add a Guildhall or a Market if needed.
Ogres are decent meat that I take to Utopia; an extra unit is always helpful. I choose based on the number of available spawns of each type.
I can't imagine how rich the resource spawn or the player's skills (which would allow them to gather/earn enough gold) would have to be to upgrade critters to level 121.

Qwerty

1/15/2013 2:30 PM UTC

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Here, so much depends on the template.
In the last game, on speed2 (no tour) with 200% on all-random, I built a town with beasts and orcs in the first castle, and birds with orcs in the second. Because I saw a pretty strong Guardian Order, in the second castle I built ogres with beasts in two castles, and in the third, it all ended (thanks to the goblins, they defended everything perfectly).

So, in the final, both ogres and orcs played their part. Plus, before that, when I took a consulate with a greying stack, losing only 1 goblin.

So, here, a lot depends on the template. And, of course, on the hero.

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KycoK_3a6opa

1/15/2013 2:38 PM UTC

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Lider1

Do you often upgrade creatures to level 121?

I try to upgrade them to level 121 by the beginning/middle of the second week.
1.2.1 - 1.2.3, something like that.

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sanekus

1/16/2013 12:07 PM UTC

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Thanks, that’s what I thought. I was just afraid of missing something.

Lie catcher

1/17/2013 2:35 PM UTC

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and health (against neutral creatures) is not as important as their ability.

Qwerty

1/28/2013 1:22 PM UTC

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Chingis

I want to compare Gunnisson and Crag Hack.

Let's say both are level 10, both have expert attack.

There is a lot of talk about Crag's supposedly super attack stats due to his specialty.

Let's take level 10, Crag's attack deals 45% more damage, while Gunnisson's deals 30% more.

First of all, Crag's bonus is not great, and secondly, you still have to reach level 10, and after that many other factors can come into play.

And what if an external dwelling of monsters appears? Can Crag clear it on week 1? And the most important thing is precisely the first week.

Gurni at levels 3-5 with 1 Monster will break Crag at level 10 with a starting army over his knee. imho

1. In short, who is better to start with on Jebus Cross? Gunnisson, Crag Hack or Tyraxor?:)

2. I couldn't find the formula for calculating the Ballista specialty in FizMig. I mean that specialty that Gurni has. In the hero itself, there is info that the Ballista's attack skills increase after level 4. But how exactly do these skills increase?

The Ballista's attack-defense increases. Crag has his own advantages. You are only considering Jebus Cross, but there are other templates as well. Firstly, the Ballista doesn't work in Crypts. Secondly, it doesn't work in Griffin Conservatories either. Nor in Dwarf Cottages. And in many other places. While Gurni is leveling his cannon - Crag could take, say, Tactics or Earth or Logistics. By level 10, Gurni will have spent 4 level-ups on innate skills, Crag will have spent one, respectively... An external dwelling of monsters... And what if there isn't one? And what if there is a Griffin Conservatory?
Both heroes are good, both have their pros and cons. And in general, Gundula is also worthwhile, and Terek in certain cases, and Tyraxor. The fact that you have found a favorite hero is good, now you should start playing him...

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Qwerty

1/30/2013 1:18 PM UTC

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When capturing a monster lair, tactics matter less; even a single, unupgraded wolf can guide the monsters in the "right direction."
The ability activates upon impact. When calculating damage, the unit's defense is multiplied by 0.6, rounded up.

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Niemand

2/4/2013 9:30 AM UTC

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Check it in the editor.

Terraniux

2/4/2013 12:57 PM UTC

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Chingis, why is Gurisson often mentioned? What makes him better than his colleagues, such as Pyre, Torosar (Torcher), or the guy from Dungeon?

Dirty_Player

2/4/2013 4:02 PM UTC

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Gurnisson is really strong. In the first week, thanks to the ballista, he can do a lot. But by the middle of the second week, he already starts to fall behind Kreg.

Terraniux

2/4/2013 6:42 PM UTC

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And in the end, the defensive heroes will be better than the attackers. For example, Tazar with Mefala against Kragg. All level 15. Kragg has an extra 52.5% damage. And the defenders will have 26.25% blocked damage. So, which is better?

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mrshch

2/5/2013 3:49 PM UTC

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Terraniux

Chingis, why do people often talk about Gurnisson? What makes him better than his colleagues, namely Pira, Torosar (Torsher), or the guy from Dungeon?

Because he's a Barbarian. His attack grows very quickly.

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Chingis

I checked. If you have Expert Fire and the stacks are close together. Preferably 7 stacks, so it works. Then you target Berserk on some central stack. And immediately 3 stacks get hit by Berserk and start attacking each other. I'll keep that in mind. Before, I didn't know what to do with the Book of Fire Magic.

In the battle settings, you need to enable the display of the cursor shadow. Then it will definitely show you which target Berserk, Meteor, Inferno, etc. are being cast on.