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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmVZrLAP3eE - "Vaccination in maternity hospitals is a CRIME!", 8 min.
If you have a child, don't forget to get them vaccinated!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJZu8JJMDXA - "Genocide! Vaccination is a biological weapon!!!", 5 min.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTSKW25YIyc&feature=endscreen&NR=1 - "The harm of vaccinations or the truth about vaccination (IMBF.ORG)", 22 min (includes the first video).

What a mess they've created. The message that Ichthyandr is quoting was on the forum for only 5 seconds. I wrote it in the heat of the moment, and then immediately deleted it. It's not my fault that this "justice warrior" refreshes the page every second to follow the argument. I still think he's a terrible player, both in terms of gameplay and his attitude towards the game. I recommend that everyone avoid playing with this person. Seriously, it's absurd when they start bringing up examples of "almost rape" and then complain about pig-like behavior, citing a post from a rather incoherent person who has already accused everyone of INJUSTICE. Gentlemen, it's time for you to seek treatment. P.S. All this circus, my dear Ichthyandr, started only after he burst into my ICQ with insults. In response, I gave him a dose of insults and explanations of what and why, the main point of which was: "I want to show the public what a wonderful opponent you are." Then he replied: "Okay, I'll show the masses too *censored*." And that's basically the rest of the story on the forum. P.P.S. We played twice, with a long break in between, and both times the outcome was the same. I don't watch Ichthyandr's streams, but I've seen the exact same situation with at least two other streamers. And then he comes out with talk about morality and honor... but in reality... I think Ichthyandr's chivalrous act in R55max's place would have been to surrender as soon as the mages got even one morale point

All this fuss, dear ichthyander, started only after he burst into my ICQ with insults, to which, after receiving a reciprocal dose of profanities and explanations of what and why, the main semantic load of which was - "I want to show the public what a magnificent opponent you are."

And what exactly did you want to convey to the public? You invented some situation with Sevensan that didn't exist. No player I played with has ever criticized me for my attitude towards the game. You, a person I played with only once and to whom I normally explained the situation in the game, managed to accuse me of something unknown and even insult me. You didn't give me any "explanations of what and why" in ICQ. You just suddenly started spewing negativity towards an unknown person, and you started writing nonsense...

ariputra, I don't feel like going into explanations right now, but people who scare others with talk about vaccinations are dangerous fools! At least read this short article: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F
Damn, well, here's a simple example: everyone knows that if you stick 2 fingers into an outlet, you'll get an electric shock that can kill you - but no one is demanding that, for that reason, the use of electricity be banned?! Although, of course, it's your right to live without electricity! ;)

ariputra, I have no desire to get into explanations right now,

that's exactly the point—unfortunately, you have no desire to get into explanations, details, or the essence of the problem.

but people who scare others about vaccination are dangerous fools!

How can you do that? Without properly studying the issue, without understanding the core, to make such judgments, conclusions, and slap labels on people? To protest without penetrating the essence of the problem, without studying anything.

At least read this short article: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F

This article contradicts a huge number of facts collected by people who are not biased and have not been bought by the state—the goal of this article is to lull people's vigilance, deceive them, mislead them, hide from them (us) the truth, the real state of affairs, the real goals and objectives of vaccination (gene experiments, reduction of the earth's population, microchipping the population); all this is done within the framework of the "Golden Billion Theory," which is funded in particular by Rothschild and Bill Gates.

And those who do this are so glad that we don't believe it, that we cannot even imagine, let alone believe, that someone could have such treacherous and cannibalistic plans!

Our unwillingness to think about the real goals and motives of certain "projects" and "programs" is their luck, their key to victory.

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Professor and expert in the field of virology and vaccination—G.P. Chervonskaya (86 years old) comes to completely different conclusions:

http://video.yandex.ru/users/gelo7209/view/58 - "Vaccination Round Table in the State Duma 09.12.2009 G.P. Chervonskaya virologist professor", 2h50min.
Please do not be lazy, spend 3 hours of your life (we spend far more time on sleep and entertainment), listen to what she says, what arguments she brings forward, and what she appeals to.

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Video recording of the speech by Professor and virologist Galina Petrovna Chervonskaya at the Round Table in the State Duma of Russia.
The following conclusions follow from the speech (these are not my conclusions):
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1. Vaccination of infants in the maternity hospital is a crime against the people of Russia.
2. Vaccination of infants in the maternity hospital is a global deception of the people of Russia.
3. Vaccination of infants in the maternity hospital is a biological weapon of mass destruction of the population of Russia.
4. Vaccination of infants in the maternity hospital is a criminal experiment being conducted in Russia, which does not exist in other countries.
5. Vaccination of children with live vaccines is a crime against the people of Russia. Vaccination can only be carried out with killed vaccines.
6. Mass vaccination of the population is a crime against the people of Russia.
7. Vaccination can only be voluntary and only after diagnosing the possibility of vaccination, therefore it cannot be mass.
8. All vaccine waste is brought to Russia.
9. Not specialists, but traders work with Russia. Those officials who defend the vaccination of infants and mass vaccinations of the population receive monetary "kickbacks" from foreign pharmacological trading firms.
10. Vaccinations cause a huge number of complications and deaths—there are appalling statistics.
11. Vaccinations lead to autism, as they contain mercury that damages brain neurons.
12. Vaccinations damage children's kidneys, as they contain mercury that destroys them.
13. Vaccinations affect the reproductive capacity of children, as they contain mercury. Vaccinations are the cause of low birth rates in subsequent generations up to the fourth.
14. The Mantoux test gives children leukemia. It is specifically responsible for the appearance of a huge number of leukemic children.
15. Vaccinations contain formalin—a powerful carcinogen—and they are given to infants in maternity hospitals.
16. Now a new vaccine against hepatitis B is being introduced, but this type of hepatitis is transmitted only through the bloodstream, therefore it is a disease of drug addicts; it is IMPOSSIBLE to get infected just like that. However, with this vaccine, the entire population of Russia will be infected.
17. Only 1% of the population has a predisposition to tuberculosis, and this is determined by heredity. However, the BCG vaccine is given to everyone—this is a crime. There are terrible statistics showing that tuberculosis outbreaks occur precisely in areas where vaccination against it is carried out.
18. There are statistics indicating that complications after BCG primarily affect white-skinned, fair-haired, blue-eyed people. BCG is a genetic weapon of genocide of the population based on nationality. This is a fact! This is evidence from specialists!
19. Vaccines are genetically modified viruses, artificially altered in a laboratory—they are GMOs!
20. The flu vaccine is a bluff and a deception for which Russia pays Western companies 4 billion rubles, after which the incidence of influenza increases, moreover with more severe forms of influenza. This vaccine is only beneficial to officials through "kickbacks" under contracts.
Do not vaccinate children—otherwise we will have no next generation—there will be no one, neither grandchildren nor great-grandchildren!
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Everyone can look for themselves (study this problem more deeply from different sides) and draw their own conclusions!
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Damn, well, here is at least the most childish example: everyone knows that if you put 2 fingers in a socket, you'll get an electric shock that can kill you—but no one demands to ban the use of electricity on those grounds?! Although, of course, it's your right to live without electricity! ;)

An incorrect example in this case; there is at least some benefit from electricity (there is also huge harm, but that's another big topic), but from vaccines—there is no benefit! Only harm! Kept silent by all state media! In all countries. Deaths specifically from vaccines, and not from the diseases "against which" these vaccines are administered—are not isolated cases, but a mass phenomenon. Among the unvaccinated, there are not as many deaths as among the vaccinated. In areas where mass vaccinations were carried out, the percentage of deaths only increases—and this is the most terrible silenced secret.

Sell-out "Medical Experts" shout in one voice about the benefits of vaccines, but why then:

1. Not a single disease for which a vaccine exists has been defeated. Why?

2. Tuberculosis outbreaks occur precisely in areas where vaccination against it is carried out. Why?

3. The number of people who died from smallpox after the smallpox vaccination became greater than before this vaccine was introduced. Why?

4. People cannot be vaccinated indiscriminately (as there are individual contraindications), but vaccination is a mass "procedure". Why?

5. In the 70s, it was proven that the BCG vaccine (against tuberculosis) is ineffective and dangerous, but to this day it continues to be given to infants in maternity hospitals on the 3rd-7th day. Why?

6. 1871 Bavaria (Germany), vaccination is mandatory, 30,472 cases of smallpox, 29,429—among the vaccinated. Why?

7. 1871, 97.5% of people who died from smallpox had been previously vaccinated against it. Why??

8. 1933, Danish researcher Torvald Madsen discovered that the pertussis vaccine can kill infants without any signs—sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS).

9. 1940, Germany. Mandatory immunization of children is introduced. By 1945, cases of diphtheria increased from 40,000 to 250,000.

10. 1960, "British Medical Journal". Swedish vaccine researcher Justuts Storm: "Neurological complications from pertussis are fewer than from the pertussis vaccine." Why?

11. 1976, Dr. Jonas Salk, creator of the polio vaccine: "The live virus vaccine used since 1960 is the sole cause of poliomyelitis cases since 1961!".

12. 1981, it was established that formaldehyde, a common component of vaccines, can cause cancer

13. 1982, it was established that DTP causes sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) in infants. Japan passed a law banning the vaccination of children under two years old—cases of SIDS in Japan ceased!

14. 1988, "The Washington Post" states that all cases of poliomyelitis since 1979 were caused by the vaccine.

15. 1992, "American Journal of Epidemiology": "Child mortality within three days after DTP vaccination is 8 times higher than in children who did not receive the vaccine."

16. 2004, "On the results of the mass immunization of the population of the RF against diphtheria": "The percentage of vaccinated people who fell ill was: adults—68.4%, children—83.2%."

And there are thousands of such examples.
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But if you still think this is complete nonsense, and vaccines are exclusively beneficial, be sure to go and get yourself vaccinations at least for BCG (tuberculosis), pertussis, and smallpox; oh, and don't forget to give these vaccinations to your children!

ariputra
I'm sorry, but you're a bit out of your mind if you actually believe this nonsense.

I think all this hype is a government-sponsored campaign so that later, when there is no demand, they won't allocate budget money for the vaccine. My parents are doctors, and quite good ones at that; these anti-vaccine arguments just make them laugh. If some idiot injected the wrong dose, that's a different story, closer to an unfortunate accident.

There is statistics showing that complications after the BCG vaccine primarily affect white-skinned, fair-haired, blue-eyed people.

Haha, stop it:smile52:

The flu vaccine is a bluff and a scam, for which Russia pays Western companies 4 billion rubles.

It's a great thing. We use the French one, and we don't get sick. Knock on wood, knock on wood, knock on wood. But it's getting harder and harder to find in pharmacies every year. They advertise drugs that help people who are already sick. Why? Maybe someone benefits from us constantly having runny noses and fevers?

Vaccines lead to autism because they contain mercury.

Autism is a congenital disease. Scientists all over the world are working hard, trying to figure out what exactly is wrong with the metabolism of these people, creating diets, experimenting, and then it turns out that everyone already knows that it's mercury from vaccines:D

It has been established that formaldehyde, a common component of vaccines, can cause cancer.

And so do marshmallows and Turkish delight. You eat them. Why?:eek:

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ariputra, maybe you should write about the meaning of life instead? ;)

vaccines are useless! they only cause harm!

Shameless lie! The rest is not worth reading.
I sincerely feel sorry for you: these scoundrels have muddled your mind! This is what the decline in education leads to! And this is precisely a consequence of the actions of real, not imaginary, enemies of Russia! I wish you a speedy enlightenment!;)
P.S. Or maybe you still believe in: "the number of the beast," "evil barcodes," and other nonsense?!

I don't understand, is anyone actually taking Ariputra seriously? I personally formed my final opinion about his intellectual level when he wrote some nonsense about an army of 60 billion (or so, I can't be bothered to look it up) soldiers in ancient history, several thousand years ago. Yes, such armies existed, didn't you know? :D

If you didn't know, then...
Ariputra - a curated collection of writings, seasoned with a perverted religious aura.

Lider1, but since this person plays "Heroes," they can't be completely stupid; they're just, in my opinion, a very suggestible person who is easily prone to panic.
By the way, I wanted to create an image back then... maybe I'll do it now...
Regarding the battle of 60 billion warriors, I also wanted (and still do) to suggest that ariputra calculate, for example, what size the pyramid of skulls of those who died in this battle would be?;) And the toilet topic is also suitable: how many tons of feces and liters of urine would they produce in one day? :D What length of freight train would be needed to transport these valuable fertilizers? :D And so on.

Lider1, but since this person plays "Heroes," it means they aren't completely stupid, they're just, in my opinion, a very suggestible person who is easily prone to panic.

Playing Heroes, like playing chess, doesn't necessarily mean a person is normal or particularly intelligent.

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Dirty_Player, I demand that my post be restored. It was written without insults and is relevant.

60 billion people participated in the battle???? What kind of event is this? What is the date, what war is it? Even during the reign of Darius I, in the Great Persian Empire of the Achaemenids, when the number of troops was a record high in the 6th-5th centuries BC, there was never such an army, even taking into account the peoples taken by force. The Medes, Phoenicians, city-states of Greece in Asia Minor... there were not that many people living in ancient India if you added them all up, and in Latin America... there were no such terrifying figures in the entire Ancient World... it's utter nonsense, Ariputra must have watched too many superstitious shows where they also say that 7,000 years ago, some ancient civilization built a spaceport for aliens))) Where did these figures come from, and what is the argument? Back to Latin America, in the Middle Ages alone, there were no more than 12 million Incas.

Well, let's take this comparison as an example. The circumference of the Earth is approximately 40,000 km. If 60 billion people stood in a chain, holding hands (for simplicity, let's assume the length of one link in this chain is 1 meter), they could wrap around our Earth 1500 (one and a half thousand) times! Does everyone understand what conclusion should be drawn from this?! ;)

In general, if someone thinks: "Why bother arguing with ariputr? He's just talking nonsense, so what?" Well, this isn't a debate between me and him: at least several hundred (or even thousands) of people visit and read what we write on our site (if anyone has exact data, please share!). If no one objects to the nonsense written about vaccinations, some might think: "Maybe it's true: I won't get vaccinated, or I'll die!" So: screw those who spread such nonsense!
By the way, for those who are sure that everything was bad in the USSR: at that time, they didn't publish nonsense in the media, and you could absolutely trust the printed word (except for purely ideological topics)! But now the Internet is full of utter nonsense: "intelligent lizards from the planet Nibiru," etc. And, for example, videos on YouTube cannot serve as proof or disproof of anything! :(

Returning to another argument.
ariputra, here's a simple intelligence test for you. What do you think these diseases have in common: plague, smallpox, anthrax, diphtheria, polio, measles, scarlet fever, tetanus, whooping cough? (I wrote this from memory, so I might have made a mistake about something, but the main point should be clear)
Anyone who knows, don't answer! ;)
Please answer briefly, clearly, and to the point!

Well, with the current 6 billion, they could wrap the Earth 150 times with this chain, and so what? Should we draw a conclusion from this as well?

Screamer1982, "sometimes it's better to chew than to talk!" (C) ;) By the way, this has nothing to do with your signature - it's just a phrase that came to mind in response.
However, one conclusion can definitely be drawn from your post - guess in three tries what it is? ;)