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Therefore, this is also an indirect Dragon Fly Hive, another bead on the necklace.
Leolopus
Posts from To Vigo or not to Vigo? That is the question.
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Vigo deserves to be on the Blacklist
81.4%
48 votes
Vigo was unfairly added to the Blacklist and should be removed from it
18.6%
11 votes
Captain
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Peter, Pete, it seems like this has become an obsession for you, a real idée fixe.
You're trying to connect everything possible, drawing conclusions based on the smallest details.
But we've been convinced countless times that you can't prove anything, and even Carnegie wrote that you won't achieve anything through arguing and insults.
Regarding the special network for jerks – I have one specifically for tournaments; I even move those I only play tournaments with into a separate group in my contact list because there are many tournaments, and I might forget who I'm supposed to play with. Also, this portal has a terrible feature: it doesn't send reminders about dates.
And it's not always easy to remember where you signed up by browsing through the topics.
Leolopus, who are you? Are you the one I asked to ban with the nickname starting with "B," who quickly disappeared?
I don't understand what you're doing here. Are you an authority on Heroes of Might and Magic III, or have you caught many cheaters in your life? (Just so that such newbies as you don't ask questions about me, I've probably caught more cheaters than some of you have even played games.)
Vigo, the letter from Gorbik to Numwan was news to me. I thought the issue with the $1000 was resolved normally, although you do need to teach some people a lesson. But if Gorbik paid with his own money, and you didn't return it to him, I won't shake your hand.
Vigo
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For Pit for LM
Again, you wrote some vague nonsense about someone, he said this, he thought that, here it's like this, and there it's like that, again you mentioned your son, again it's all incomprehensible! Are you slow-witted?
YOU ACCUSED ME! YOU BANNED ME! BASED ON YOUR OWN SPECULATIONS AND ANALYSES! SO ASK ME QUESTIONS THAT ARE RELEVANT TO THE TOPIC!
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So, come to Eric's gathering in Moscow and show your skills.
Guys, do you understand why offline tournaments are needed? My teeth hurt after reading all of this. Peter lives in Moscow, and so does Vitya. They came, played, and saw each other's skill level without any arguments.
In club tournaments, there can't be random winners; only those who know how to play and want to win will win.
In the past, club tournaments were enough, and all players knew each other's true strength. For example, in Moscow, there was Chaos-Andre-Bishop, then Mega-Pes - Joker - Phil - Dilvish, and so on, up to the top twenty.
In St. Petersburg, there was Antal, then Dim, Master of Lightning, Fedor, Flamingo, Varshild... When tournaments are held, everyone knows the players' strengths.
When people play online, arguments start. At one time, my ICQ was full of players' suspicions, and I had to add about 8-9 people to my blacklist; it got annoying. Only club tournaments, for me, a club tournament winner is always more valuable than an online tournament winner. If the world champion, Alex, is accused of cheating online, what's there to say? But no one will say anything against Bayazet, Predsa, and Stinger at the CIS championships. Because, with dozens of witnesses, people earned their victory.
P.S. You are welcome to the championship, just don't argue, but play. ;)
Vigo
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Vigo, for me, the news was Gorbik's letter to Numwan. I thought the issue with the $1000 was resolved normally, although you have to teach scammers a lesson, but if Gorbik paid with his own money and you didn't return it to him, I won't shake your hand.
Captain
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Guys, do you understand why offline tournaments are necessary? My teeth hurt just from reading all of this. Petr lives in Moscow, and so does Vitya. They came, played, and saw each other's level of play, without any arguments.
In club tournaments, there can't be any random winners; only those who know how to play and want to win actually win.
But there's also this – Vitalik, for example, proved his incredible skill in the club, but he was banned. And Eddie too.
Vigo is also complaining about his level being 4 out of 10.
About Alex... I don't know, for example, I know how they cheated on TE in the clubs of St. Petersburg ;)
Vigo
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Vigo, aren't you afraid of embarrassing yourself by saying one thing but actually meaning something else? Aren't you afraid of looking bad in the eyes of your friends and those who defend you? It seems like you're not understanding something... You have one last chance – admit how things really were...
I'm not trying to intimidate you; knowing the truth, I'm just curious what you'll say...
P.S. Kostya, you won't have to shake his hand... I think we just need to wait and see what Vigo will say in the end.
Just say what you mean and what you want to say!
Leolopus
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Leolopus, who are you? Not the one I asked to punish the user with a nickname starting with "B," who quickly disappeared? :)
Something's not clear about what you're doing here. Are you an authority on three heroes, or have you caught a lot of cheaters in your life? (Just to preemptively shut down questions from newbies like you about me: I've probably caught more cheaters than some people have played games.)
P.S. I'm far from a newbie, as you can see from my registration date. Heroes 5 online is my domain, so if we have similar problems there, I invite all reasonable, capable people who can think, analyze, and express themselves on the subject to join our "hut."
Vigo
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I'm definitely not a newbie, as you can see from my registration date. Heroes of Might and Magic V Online is my domain, so if we encounter similar problems there, I invite all reasonable people who are capable of thinking, analyzing, and expressing their opinions on the matter to join our "hut":)
Captain
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It's clear he's a diplomat :) I've already explained who I am and what I'm doing here. I joined the discussion, carefully reviewed the materials, drew conclusions, and, as an uninvolved, independent, unbiased person, not bound by friendship or camaraderie with anyone present, I'm sharing my opinion. This topic is open, and I haven't seen any restrictions on participation. I assume that anyone, even someone unknown, who posts in this thread, like "Freedom for Vigo," will cause less negativity :)
P.S. I'm far from a newbie, as you can see from my registration date. The 5th online game is my domain, so if we have similar problems there, I invite all reasonable, capable people who can think, analyze, and express themselves on the subject to join our "hut."
You are personally showing a biased attitude, not an unbiased one. Judges don't do that.
And without knowing the nuances or judging based solely on this thread, no matter how carefully someone reads it, it's impossible to draw conclusions.
Leolopus
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Who is one of the best 5-player players in Moscow (at least)?
P.S. In general, the question is strange, considering that it is addressed to the moderator of the HMM5 online section, who is also one of the official organizers of online 5-player tournaments.
Kilgor
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:eek: I'm shocked, you seem like a reasonable person, and you like to troll, but I still don't understand that Vigo was scamming?
Facts:
a) He didn't pay a single penny of the prize fund.
b) He confirmed that someone else was playing for him, and not just making individual moves.
c) I didn't see answers to SevenSeven's questions; why is he avoiding them?
:eek: I'm shocked, you seem like a reasonable person, and you like to troll, but I still don't understand that Vigo was scamming?
Facts:
a) He didn't pay a single penny of the prize fund.
b) He confirmed that someone else was playing for him, and not just making individual moves.
c) I didn't see answers to SevenSeven's questions; why is he avoiding them?
Leolopus
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Personally, I don't think it's wise to get involved in something I don't understand.
You're showing a biased attitude, not an unbiased one. Judges don't do that.
And without knowing all the details or judging based solely on this topic, no matter how carefully someone reads it, it's impossible to draw conclusions.
Lider1
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g) I didn't see answers to SevenSeven's questions, why is he dodging them?
There weren't any questions to begin with :D
Kilgor
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There were no questions, after all :D
1. Did Vitalik play on your behalf in official Tournaments, with your consent, for the entire match? If so, who was he playing with?
2. Who played against me on Jebus? Who was that person? Specifically.
So I don't "accidentally" miss anything.
So, here are my questions about that match:
1. Why did you go without control, randomly, and move turn by turn?
2. Why didn't you take the 4 All shield (even though an obviously strong player would have done so instead of running into the darkness without control)?
3. Why did you turn off the road (and very quickly, for only 1 turn!), even though the flag wasn't visible from the road!!! Or do you have a microscope +500 on your eyes?
4. You showed a very strong game in the first week. How, with your skill (4), did you manage to surpass yourself and come in second with 18 archers?
5. You've already been asked about the Utopia folder in the darkness, but there's no answer. You were just lucky, right.
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