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19.11.2012 Sevensan (Red, Inferno, Kalt, Gurnisson >>> Vokial) Def Dima Surmay (Blue, Castle, Valeska) 8mm6a 223

What a game that was!

111-117 Kalt with three stacks in the underground, so 32 Gogs from the start. Resources were mediocre, plus I had to break ranged blocks. On day two, Gurnisson appeared and started leveling. Mid-first week I took native Conflux (whose heroes, with their shooter, minused me 20 Gogs), plus an external market, which ultimately let me get to Efreeti in the Citadel.

121-127 Second week. Right away I lose the Efreeti to 50 Marksmen =( I take max Dwarf Cottages and break into the central portal. There, Boots right behind the Ice Elementals and a center village (which turned out to be key). Gurn already has expert Ballistics and basic Earth. Mid-week, I beat 14 Champions for a Dragon Fly Hive +6 and 30 Trolls for a Dragon Fly Hive +8. I have 14 Wyverns, 3 Efreeti, 7 Pit Fiends. I beat 64 upgraded Basilisks for 15k exp. Expert Logistics and I got Air Magic. Dragon Fly Hive +8 and I kill the Necro comp. The Necro has a Griffin Conservatory +2, and on the last day, I take Dima's Necro comp with the Capitol! Dima has 1 Castle, and I'm sure of victory.

131-137 Cleared Naga Banks, income of 9k, impressive! I took another Dragon Fly Hive, reanimated a few Skeletons, and headed to Dima! On the way, I broke a chain of Unicorns knowing he was in the treasure zone, but I miscalculated and on 135 didn't manage to put on the Boots, which on 136 stopped me from capturing his Castle without troops, which was basically GG. In the end, I camped right under his Castle. He recalled home and holed up.

137 I look... 50+ Marksmen, Angels, Champions, Wyverns — in short, useless to fight. For some reason I killed a couple of Unicorns and ran away... Oh, and I shouldn't have done that!!! He had the Gloves and Logs, caught me, blinded the Wyverns... In short, I played the final battle terribly, losing all my meat (27 Wyverns, 3 Angels, 6 Efreeti, 12 Pit Fiends, 200 Skeletons, + lost a level 18 hero with Tactics, Attack, Earth, Air, Logs... plus gave him the Boots, Necklace of Swiftness, Sword, Helm... basically everything! I only killed 6 Champions, 10-20 Marksmen, and 5 Knights... So we saved there...

141 ... I pulled myself together. He had the whole war machine and Valeska with 3500 MP... I started gathering a war machine from two Necro castles. Luckily there was a Necro, then a second one came. And I had Kalt with expert Earth and Attack... so I started pushing further. 100 Skeletons, 3 Drakes, and 11 Necro Champions as a good start.

141-147 I took a Conservatory +3, killed the Tower comp (at the cost of two Angels... I decided to go at 3 Bird Men, but there was a full devourer... barely survived with an Angel at 20 hp.) Dima only on 145 !!! came to me, for some reason traveling through rough terrain, wasting precious time, gathering resources with his main. In short, doing nonsense.

147 3 Necros raised 450 Skeletons (with the home comp's boost). Dragons in the Castle of both castles + an external dwelling for Dragons... At home, Devils in the Castle!!!

211 .... um... Plague Week... !!!! AaahAAAAAAAaaaaaa... well damn... In short, my growth of 7 Dragons went down the drain (plus one unclaimed...) 8 Necro Champions too, down the drain... in short, all down the drain!!!! crap... well, I survived somehow and kept playing. I have a scroll with Dimension Door, thinking about level 5 Mage Guild.

211-217 Dima finally got a clue and started taking castles. (while still moving his main through rough terrain, gathering resources. Turns out he had a scroll with Fly and was building a Mage Guild... In short, in one week I had 1200 Skeletons, collected the Elixir! 20 Wyverns, and on 217, the Tower gave me Town Portal.

222 Broke a Dragon Utopia
223 Another Dragon Utopia + took Dima's main with two Angels. Surrender follows. Always fight to the end!!!
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19.11.2012 Sevensan (Red, Inferno, Kael, Gunnar >>> Vokial) Def Dima Surmay (Blue, Castle, Valeska) 8mm6a 223

What a game that was!

111-117 Kael with three stacks in the underground, and that's 32 Fire Shooters from the start. The resources were thrown together average, plus I had to take out shooter blockers. On the second day Gunnar appeared and started leveling up. Mid-week one I took my native Conflux (whose heroes with shooting minused 20 Gogs from me), also an external market, which eventually allowed me to get to Efreeti in the Citadel.

121-127 Second week. Straight away I lose the Efreeti on 50 Marks =( I take a max Dwarf Cottage and break through to the central portal. There are Boots immediately behind the Ice Elementals and the center village (which turned out to be key). Gunnar already has Expert Ballistics and Basic Earth. Mid-week I take down 14 Unicorns for a Dragon Fly Hive +6 and 30 Trolls for a Dragon Fly Hive +8. I have 14 Wyverns, 3 Efreeti, 7 Pit Fiends. Fight 64 upgraded Basilisks for 15k exp. Expert Logistics and I got Air. Dragon Fly Hive +8 and the Necro computer is defeated. The Necro has a Griffin Conservatory +2 and on the last day I take Dima's Necro computer with a Capitol! Dima has 1 castle and I am sure of victory.

131-137 Cleared out the Naga Banks, income of 9k, impressive! Took another Dragon Fly Hive, re-necromanced some Skeletons and went to Dima! On the way I killed a chain of scout heroes, understanding he was in the treasure zone, but I miscalculated and on 135 didn't have time to equip the Boots, which on 136 didn't allow me to capture his castle without troops, which would have been equivalent to GG. In the end I stood right under his castle. He teleported home and holed up.

137 I look.. 50+ Marksmen, Angels, Unicorns, Wyverns — in short, no point in attacking, I killed a couple of scout heroes for some reason and ran away... Oh, what a mistake that was!!! He had Gloves and Boots of Speed, caught me, blinded the Wyverns... In short, I played the final battle disgustingly, giving away all the meat (27 Wyverns, 3 Angels, 6 Efreeti, 12 Pit Fiends, 200 Skeletons, + lost a level 18 hero with Tactics, Attack, Earth, Air, Boots of Speed... + gave him Boots of Speed, Necklace of Swiftness, Sword, Helm .. in short, everything! I killed only 6 Unicorns, 10-20 Marksmen and 5 Champions... And there we paused...

141 ... I collected my thoughts. There was the whole main army and Valeska with 3500 MP... I started assembling a main army from two Necro castles. Good thing I had a Necro, a second one came. And there was Kael with Expert Earth, Attack.. in short I started pressing forward. 100 Skeletons, 3 Dread Knights and 11 Power Liches as a good start.

141-147 Took a Griffin Conservatory +3. Defeated the Tower computer (at the cost of two Angels.. I decided to go against 3 Phoenixes and there was a full Seer's Hut... one Angel barely survived with 20 HP.) Dima only on 145 !!! came to me, for some reason going through rough terrain, wasting precious time, collecting resources with his secondary hero. In short, doing nonsense.

147 3 Necromancers necromanced 450 Skeletons (with the home computer's boost). Dragons in the castle in both castles + an external dwelling of Dragons... At home, Devils in the castle!!!

211 .... um.... A Plague Week... !!!! AaaahHHHaaaaaaaaaaaa... oh crap... In short, In short my growth of 7 dragons went down the drain (plus one un-purchased...) 8 Power Liches also in the bucket.. in short, everything in the bucket!!!! WTF... well, I survived it somehow, started playing on. I have a Dimension Door scroll, thinking about Mage Guild level 5.

211-217 Dima finally figured out what was what and started to take castles. (while moving his main hero through rough terrain, collecting resources. It turns out he had a Fly scroll and was building a Mage Guild... In short, over the week Skeletons grew to 1200, the Elixir of Health was assembled! 20 Wyverns, and on 217 in Tower I got Town Portal.

222 A Dragon Utopia was broken
223 Another Dragon Utopia + I took Dima's main castle with two Angels. Surrender follows. Always fight till the end!!!

I confirm, on 141 Sevensan made a redrench killing a scout hero, but since I had taken auto-recall before that, let's call it even.
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I confirm, on 141 Sevensan redranched after killing the scout hero, but since I had already taken an auto before that, let's call it even.
:smile06: after a complete wipeout in the FB, you killed my scout hero on 1 griffin and are posting about it here.. aren't you ashamed? P.S. We sort of discussed it in ICQ, plus you took an auto. In short, not cool.

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17.11.2012 Sevensan (Red, rnd, Rmap, Malcolm, Kyrre) Def Gomunguls (Blue, rnd, Inferno, Calh, Pyre) Jebuss 126

On the first, I flagged two external dwellings of horses and took two beehives for 14 ducks. Horses at home in the castle.

117 Kyrre, Expert Earth and Air, replenishes mana.

122 Broke a Guardian Obelisk for 4 rusted (having taken a Shield 4 All and Griffin Conservatories 2+3 earlier)
122-126 Cleaned two Dragon Utopias in the center, Maxi Wonsoo, and several Pandoras for experience (there was so much that they started just giving +1 to stats)
126 Broke Gomunguls' Guardian Obelisk and killed a machine on a scout hero. Attacked the main folder, but there was an imp cache. Cast Slow, devils resisted... had to kill a couple of Efreeti and buy peace. After that, they couldn't reach me by 1 step, gave up the machine on Efreeti, and surrendered. Was ready to take the Cloak Block above 3 and attack.
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:smile06: after completely losing on FB, you killed my scout hero on 1 Griffin and are writing about it here... aren't you ashamed? P.S. We sort of discussed it in ICQ, plus you took auto. In short, it's not manly.
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and what's not manly here??? I simply reported your violation of the rules, and I'm not seeking any benefit for myself!!!
But you, knowing you broke the rule, wrote a victory report — is that manly?
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Sevensanafter a complete blowout in FB, killed your scout hero on 1 griffin and writes about it here.. aren't you ashamed? P.S. We sort of discussed this in ICQ, plus you took an auto. In short, not like a man.

And what exactly is not like a man about this??? I simply reported your violation of the rules, and I'm not seeking any benefit for myself!!!
But you, knowing that you violated the rule, wrote a victory report — is that being like a man?
If he killed your noob with growth, and the noob had 1 griffin — that's not a redraw, since the army strength didn't affect the outcome. Or did it?
http://heroes3.tv/twaryna
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Sevensan:smile06: after completely losing on FB, you killed my scout hero with 1 griffin and writing about it here.. aren't you ashamed? P.S. We sort of discussed it in ICQ, plus you took auto. In short, not cool.
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and what's not cool about that??? I was just reporting your rules violation, and I'm not seeking any benefit for myself!!!
But you, knowing you violated the rule, wrote a victory report — is that cool?


Dima....

"5.1. The so-called 'red rush' is prohibited, meaning a player playing as red is not allowed to attack on the first day of the week with creatures grown that very day:
a) the blue castle (even if the castle is unguarded)
b) blue heroes or guarded mines, if the presence of the growth could affect the outcome of the battle or the losses in the battle for either player."

That is, there was no rules violation on his part (provided he, aside from the growth, took something capable of killing the Griffin)....

But it's not proper for you to write about his "alleged" violation, especially since he gave you auto beforehand....
С истиной где-то рядом...





Лето 2010.
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If he killed your unit with a growth bonus, and that unit had only 1 griffin, it's not considered a re-draw, since the army's strength didn't affect the outcome. Or did it?


Good question, I checked the save... it seems it doesn't count as a re-draw.... but right after the game, I wrote to Sevansan that he probably did a re-draw. First, he said he attacked without a growth bonus, then he admitted he did have one, and even wrote that if I had any complaints about it, I could write a report. So I decided that it was definitely a re-draw.

Dubrovin Pavel

So, you shouldn't write about his "alleged" violation when he gave you an auto-win before that....

That is, are you saying that if someone gives an auto-win, they can then play and break the rules? And the other player should remain silent about it?
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20.12.2012 zoog (blue, random, fortress, Bron) def Ayauhteotl (red, random, dungeon, Dace) 134 2sm4d3
7 basilisks and Gundula arrived - I wanted to switch to her all along. On day 1 I lost everything except the basilisks, but on 116 I captured the native secondary town, in it wyverns and flies, mostly 1-6 range. On 122 I take a roadside pre-max Dragon Fly Hive, the army in no-road terrain picks up +3 mana, nearby a lift is also triggered - and there is a pre-max Griffin Conservatory and +3+3 shield, further another Conservatory-2 in the adjacent zone, a pre-max Dragon Fly Hive deep in its own spawn, and faster to meet, I don't play dumb or confuse chains, surprisingly). By the finale 5 angels, 37 wyverns, and stacks of gorgons-basilisks, while red had a harsh layout with almost no passages and rebuilding left no chances(
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Dima_Surmay (22:57:13 19/11/2012)
on 131 you kinda did a red rush, or does it not matter since you killed my scout hero with a shooter...but with growth....?

Dima_Surmay (22:57:46 19/11/2012)
i.e. on 141

335665133-1@qip.ru (23:02:28 19/11/2012)
what growth did I kill you with

335665133-1@qip.ru (23:02:51 19/11/2012)
I had 7 skeletons and I killed you

Dima_Surmay (23:02:52 19/11/2012)
there were fights

Dima_Surmay (23:03:26 19/11/2012)
you apparently passed the army through the chain and killed my scout hero in the process

335665133-1@qip.ru (23:03:29 19/11/2012)
dunno, maybe so I don't remember

335665133-1@qip.ru (23:03:33 19/11/2012)
is that important to you?

Dima_Surmay (23:04:12 19/11/2012)
of course, or are you playing against the rules?

335665133-1@qip.ru (23:04:26 19/11/2012)
write a tech loss if it's that important to you, I'm off to dinner

335665133-1@qip.ru (23:04:33 19/11/2012)
I don't care

Dima_Surmay (23:05:18 19/11/2012)
well I don't have the right to write...I also took the auto...and kept thinking what to do if I won...and because of this especially I won't

335665133-1@qip.ru (23:09:05 19/11/2012)
))))

335665133-1@qip.ru (23:09:17 19/11/2012)
well it's just nonsense to write that I did a red rush on a scout hero with 1 griffin

335665133-1@qip.ru (23:09:22 19/11/2012)
I dunno

335665133-1@qip.ru (23:09:41 19/11/2012)
and then expect something else from me after that. I tried, I carried as best I could, and you're finding fault with this, not manly

Have we sorted it all out? you can close the thread. Anyone who wants to bicker can go to the chat room.
P.S. Satyr, I always gave the auto when asked, so beat it.
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20.12.2012 zoog (blue, random, fortress, Bron) def Ayauhteotl (red, random, dungeon, Dace) 134 2sm4d3
Confirmed. On 112 I take native secondary, after which I spend the entire week fending off whatever money I can get; by 117 I have 1-3 in forts and 4 heroes. Second week: scouting the treasure zone. The good finds include a sword +5 everything guarded by 10+ ghost dragons and a couple of Pandora's Boxes. There's seemingly nothing to clear the treasure zone with, so I ride out of it with my main, and there's a zone with flux. I scout it a bit and grab a shield +6. I return to the treasure zone. On 131 I bring in troops — that's 50 Harpy Hags, 50 Harpy Eyes, and 140 Troglodytes. I take down 2 Pandora's Boxes for 15k experience, a Dragon Fly Hive (8), and attack the dragons (18 of them), where I lose half my army; only the Eyes remain untouched. Stat-wise, I'm now slightly ahead of Bron. At this point, the blue player arrives in the flux zone, takes it, and heads into the same treasure zone. Seeing that there are 25+ Wyverns and Angels, I realize things are bad; I throw myself at ГО (18 gr chud), the opponent gives auto, and I ride to meet him. Finale. The blue player wins with terrible losses — 4 Dragonflies and 1 Angel.

Thanks for the game)
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aka.Ward3n (blue, Rampart, Kyrre, Nimbus) def Nestor86 (red, Stronghold, Crag, Crag) 1.1.3 Mininosta
Nimbus goes to fight on the swamp with an army from the 1st week, the rest are focusing on the castle. The opponent didn't succeed, thanks for the game.
Confirmed, thanks for the game.
P.S. I realized that I haven't played as Barbarians in a long time. They require a specific approach. After that, I decided to refresh my memory by playing through the campaign as Hag.
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21.11.2012 Wladysha (red, Inferno, Kalth, Kreeg) def AYMAN (blue, Dungeon, Wystan, Wystan) 141 2sm4d3

I got a good starting position, broke through all the blocks on 112, took a necro secondary, on 115 took a Rampart secondary, 1-6 in Castle. The main hero doesn't arrive, so I have to slowly necro and demon on Isline. On 127, Isline on a scout hero with a speed boost, demons and skeletons. The opponent appears, first kills the scout hero, I don't have enough money to ransom the scout hero, I cast a couple of lightning bolts and flee. I ransom in Castle. I attack with the scout hero against a speed-boosted Wystan, no ranged units, but the opponent flees. Then Kreeg arrives, I start leveling Kreeg while necroing with Isline on the other side. On 141, I see the opponent, I suicide with the mage, ransom in Castle. He attacks, my mana isn't full, enough for a lightning bolt and an arrow shot. I deal maximum damage (on defense in Castle: 1 Efreet, 6 Pit Lords). Then the opponent takes the castle but doesn't have enough movement to sit in it. Then the finale: Kreeg with lower stats but 4 Angels, 4 Efreets, 30 Demons, and fodder rolls over 5 Hydras, 10 Minotaurs, and 10 Wyverns. The opponent surrenders. Thanks for the game!
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21.11.2012 Wladysha (red, Inferno, Calh, Crag Hack) def AYMAN (blue, Fortress, Wystan, Wystan) 141 2sm4d3

Got a good start, broke through all the blockers on 112, took a necro secondary, on 115 took a Rampart secondary, 1-6 in the Castle, the main hero doesn't show up, have to sit on the isle slowly with necro and demon, on 127 isle on the run with a scout hero, demons and skeletons, the opponent appears, first kills the scout hero, no money to ransom the scout hero, I cast a couple of lightning bolts and flee, ransom in the Castle, attack with the scout hero against a leveled-up Wystan, no shooters, but the opponent flees, then Crag Hack arrives, I start leveling Crag Hack while simultaneously necroing with the isle on the other side, on 141 I see the opponent, go all-in with the mage, ransom in the Castle, he attacks, mana not full, enough for lightning bolt and arrow, I inflict maximum casualties (on defense in the Castle 1 efreet 6 pit lords), then the opponent takes the Castle but doesn't have enough movement to sit in it, then the finale Crag Hack with lower stats but 4 angels 4 efreets 30 demons and meat shields rolls over 0 5 hydras 10 bulls and 10 wyverns, the opponent surrenders. Thanks for the game!
It happened, we took the resets + the opponent took one extra reset (on the mine blockers) since it's the season and nothing was agreed upon, it remains without my attention.
In the end, an unpleasant defeat resulted, but unfortunately I couldn't do anything, no luck)). One hex short of sitting in the capital. And throughout the game, bad luck followed me, starting with the draft and empty Pandora's boxes in the treasure zone ))
Thanks for the game!!! The opponent played quite well
( always crossed out Inferno but this time decided to keep it )))) )


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22.11.2012 Wladysha (red, random, Tower, Sirena, Kira) def Sevan_80 (blue, random, Dungeon, Arlach, Gunnar) 133 2sm4d3
1-6 in the Citadel, native secondary, 2 external dwellings of gremlins, then 2 conservatories, and there's nothing to do against the oil )))