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In tiebreaker matches and playoff games: the color is chosen by the players themselves, the map template follows the standard scheme, and each player informs the judge about their chosen faction, after which the map is generated. The faction choice for each playoff game does not depend on the number of games played with that faction in previous games. The remaining rules for the playoffs are similar to the rules for the group stage.
I didn't quite understand what is highlighted in bold.
With this interpretation, "Mage" can play as Necropolis in all playoff games, and "Might" can play as Stronghold, for example. Is that correct?
This isn't ideal, in my opinion; a 1-1...1-1 scheme is needed, plus (possibly) an exception allowing a previously played faction to be excluded in the next round.
The faction pool should be updated before the final. Something like that...
"Да, человек смертен, но это было бы еще пол беды. Плохо то, что он иногда внезапно смертен, вот в чем фокус". БУЛГАКОВ М.А.
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I didn't quite understand what was highlighted in bold.
With this interpretation, "Magi" can play as Necromancers in all playoff games.
I like this option, though.
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Dealing with Necropolises is tough – Goblins are just as strong if they survive until the 6th week.
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I apologize to my opponent in the 7th round. I couldn't get home before midnight... We played for 5 weeks before that. I concede defeat.
Thanks for the game!
What the heck, they cut off the mosaic. We played for 5 weeks, why couldn't they let us finish? They delayed the end of the previous tournament for a week, but here, a couple of days is enough to finish.
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Well, Moz lost to you and created problems for himself. However, in the Swiss system, the opponents had varying levels of skill. I only had one strong opponent in 7 rounds; I was supposed to easily defeat the rest. But Moz faced two strong opponents and lost to both. To be honest, I'm more upset that I didn't make it past ekz, but he also unnecessarily drew a game. As a result, he didn't get enough points to qualify for the playoffs.
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I understand that it's not good to change the rules during a tournament, but maybe we could make the playoffs start with the round of 8 instead of the round of 4 – that way, both Moz and Exz would qualify (and I'd also get a slightly easier opponent:)).
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I apologize to my opponent in the 7th round. I couldn't get home before midnight... We played for 5 weeks before that. I admit defeat.
Thanks for the game!

Maybe we can still finish the match (because it affects the playoff bracket). I'm ready to finish it tonight!
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I understand that it's not good to change the rules during the tournament, but maybe we can make the playoffs start with the round of 8 instead of the quarterfinals - then both Moz and Exz will get in (and I'll get a slightly easier opponent:)).

That's also a good option! Then we won't have to play tiebreaker matches. However, in this case, I will feel guilty, and Vitaly (Vip) will be upset (although he seems tired of playing as Mages :).
" Дурак учится на своих ошибках, умный - на чужих, а мудрый старается их не совершать!
Пусть будет больше мудрецов и жить станет легче!!! "

Клан "ХРАНИТЕЛИ НЕБЕСНЫХ ВРАТ" Должность/Рейтинг: Мастер меча и магии/Арбалетчик
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Regarding Mozu, the difference between him and me in terms of the strength of our opponents is currently just one point, so essentially there isn't much of a difference. Therefore, I wouldn't mind playing a tiebreaker match against him to determine who advances to the playoffs.
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ABK: That's right, let's play a co-op game, and at the same time, we'll promote Moza on the stream.
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To be honest, I'm much more upset that I didn't make it through to the next round, but he also created an unnecessary draw for himself. As a result, he didn't get enough points to qualify for the playoffs.
Ekz also got a technical loss, and the draw did give him a point, but if I had more time, I would have finished the game with him, and based on the results, Ekz might have made it to the playoffs. I also raised this issue with the head referee; Ekz could have played the game against GL where he received the technical loss, but the response was that this wouldn't fit within the tournament rules.

P.S. In general, expanding the playoffs to 8 teams would probably make everyone happy :) It would only delay the tournament by a week, and I'm all for it.
"Да, человек смертен, но это было бы еще пол беды. Плохо то, что он иногда внезапно смертен, вот в чем фокус". БУЛГАКОВ М.А.
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Everything is within the rules. If you really want it, let's have them play 8 rounds, but I remember that no one wanted to prolong the tournament when I suggested playing 10 rounds... And now you want the party to continue... Who else wants to play 8 vs. 8?
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Is no one starting to play? Because I'll rework the bracket soon, and then all sorts of questions will start coming up...
Are we changing the bracket from 4 vs. 4 to 8 vs. 8, or not?
Should we continue with the 1-1-1 elimination scheme until the final, or should each round have a new bracket?
Let's decide quickly so we don't delay ourselves...
Будьте осторожны со своими желаниями. Иногда они исполняются.
Сервер в Discord
Стрим на twitch.tv
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ЛИДЕР Клана"ХРАНИТЕЛИ НЕБЕСНЫХ ВРАТ" Рейтинг: Латник
Вступление в клан "Хранители небесных врат"
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I haven't started playing yet, and it seems my opponent hasn't either. I'm playing with 8/8, with races being eliminated. We can update the race pool for the final round.
"Да, человек смертен, но это было бы еще пол беды. Плохо то, что он иногда внезапно смертен, вот в чем фокус". БУЛГАКОВ М.А.
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Maybe not ideal, but a draft system with the possibility of ordering the same faction as the second faction only in the superfinal game? (meaning you won't be able to play all games as Necropolis, but at least you'll be able to play one game as them, and if you reach the final, you'll play two), otherwise, with a high probability, we won't see Necropolis at all.
1/4 vs. 1/8 is basically the same, but considering that some strong players don't make it to the playoffs, I think 1/8 is a more reasonable option.
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