Posts from Мафия 53. X-men: The Return

Psychology. And the sudden change in voice on Plesena, when Redbeard could still have been saved.

Siv, what about you? Who are you rooting for? Who do you consider to be the main antagonist?

Remind me, what is Dag being executed for?

Tox considers him a mobster.

Siv, who are you rooting for? Who do you think is Mafia?

Frankly, I don't see anyone acting like a Town member.
1) 3/4 of the players are inactive, and therefore potential Mafia.
2) The remaining players are saying things like: "you know what I mean," "you all understand my role, but I won't say more because it's a metagame kill," "you guys are idiots, it's obvious, but you're lynching the wrong person." I can't play like this :(
Lynch Dag

Heh. Soon, the reason for the execution will be something like this: Execute Dag because ToX said so. But I still believe him.

Don't forget to count the votes!

2) The other players are like: "you get my hint," "you all understand my role, but I won't say more because it's a modkill," "you guys are clueless, it's all obvious, and you're punishing the wrong person." I can't play like this.

It's time to start banning this and punishing people for it.

I've been thinking about it some more, and it seems to me that Ment is the one who raises suspicions. He emphasizes Tox's peaceful nature and urges him not to "mess up" and execute someone else. Yes, peacemakers can do that too, but Ment does it in a way that seems overly aggressive.

Siever, are you saying that Menti is trying to curry favor with Tox?

Yes, that’s what I think too.

Daga can be tortured for information; it's worth it.

Yes, that's what I think.

That's perfectly logical. And I like this assumption.

Yeah, I hope Doug doesn't turn out to be a peaceful character.

I don't see any reason to argue with such a respected person as Nebo.

:cool:

The cop is trying to curry favor with Tox, Tox is trying to curry favor with Nebo, and Nebo is punishing those that no one else wants to punish. What lies behind this elaborate scheme?

Remember how Dag played as a mage healer. It was exactly the same behavior.

WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE

p.s. timeline
Tox votes for Ment. (1 - first). Says something about notes.
Mona against Ment (2)
Siver against Plesen (1) figured out a clue.
Mona against Spir (1) Based on the first clue, using Tox's version.
Dag supports the idea with Ment, but doesn't vote. He suggests that the clue figured out by Siver can be attributed not only to Plesen, but also to him.
Tox suggests that Plesen and Ment may be in cahoots.
Neyra is ready to execute both Ment and Plesen, but asks the others to decide. Doesn't express her own opinion.
Nebo against Plesen (2)
Neyra against Plesen (3)
Spir against Plesen (4) There are mafia members among the last three, since the votes are cast together. 1 vote is more than enough. And I don't think it's Spir.
Dag against Plesen (5) – it's clear that if they are both mafia, I don't think Dag would vote for his own. The candidates were standing side by side. He could have voted for Ment, for example. So, the situation is either "D.town-P.town" or "D.mafia-P.town", there is, of course, a third option, but it is unlikely based on the votes.
Vish against Plesen (6). Why I don't think he's mafia. Because he was choosing from two specific candidates, and his vote wasn't decisive. And it was before I suggested Rudy. And then he changed his vote.
Mona against Rudy (1) Linked a clue.
Kosha against Plesen. (7)
Tox against Plesen (8)
Wulfgar against Plesen (9)
Ment against Plesen (10) The last ones just agreed to execute him in order to get the votes and find out his role, because he himself doesn't react in any way.
Freyd against Plesen (11) Executes based on the clues.
Rudy against Plesen (12)
Nefela against Plesen (13)
Then Siver notes that a single vote against Rudy may be a hint that he has the role of a killer. A teammate wouldn't betray his own like that. There is no connection.
Gumer against Rudy (2)
Tox against Rudy (3)
Spir against Rudy (4) These three are not mafia. There's no point in switching votes when Plesen is on the scaffold.
Kosha cancels her vote against Plesen
Nebo against Rudy (5) The same. Here, the picture is approximately 7/5. This is a risky shift. From here, votes will start pouring in for Rudy, which no one will touch. Maybe this is a clever whitewashing. But I won't push it.
Kosha against Rudy (6)
And here, Dag is doubtful.
Wulfgar against Rudy (7)
Freyd against Rudy (8)
Nefela against Rudy (9)
Dag against Plesen (Possibly, he revealed himself. The votes evened out there, and then they started to shift towards Rudy.)
Revan against Rudy (10 - 1)
Vish against Rudy (10)
Plesen against Rudy (11)

Execute Plesen - 5 votes (Siverfail, Neyra, Ment, Rudy, GodenDag).
Execute Rudy - 12 votes (Mona, Tox, Spir, Nebo, Kosha, Wulfgar, Freyd, Nefela, Revan, Vish, Plesen, Rudy).

10 votes are required for execution.

Final. All the negative votes against Plesen couldn't remain. This is a giveaway. Siver is most likely not mafia, Ment is not mafia. Neyra, Rudy, and Dag remain. Rudy should be on Plesen's side. Neyra revealed herself, but she may be mafia, although she has such a manner... it's hard to tell =), and Dag, I think he's mafia here.

There are five mafia members, excluding Rudy. Dag, Neyra (she voted among the first, if not her, then TaKo or something).
Of those who voted against Rudy, these could be Wulfgar, Nefela (although why come and just ask whether to switch to Rudy or not. And the vote was 9. It seems easier for the mafia not to come here at all).

Not mafia, from most likely to least likely:
Tox
Spir
Vish
Kosha
Siver
Plesen
Nebo
Ment
TaKo
Revan
Freyd

Ment/Freyd


Nefela
Dag
Neyra/TaKo
Wulfgar (But this is debatable. He voted 7th against Rudy. And the mafia votes among the last. Although this is a clue mafia. Who knows. The 9th-10th vote is decisive) =)
Gur
Rudy
Let's move one more from the top here. These are not the ones at the beginning of the list, but rather in the middle and at the end.
If not these users, then I have no idea... then throw Freyd, Revan, Nebo, etc. in here.

And I think that Ment is not on the team. From posts 301-306 or so... and in general, based on the voting. In general, I suggest leaving him for now.

Added 2 minutes ago
Well, for information, I would lynch Dag, why not.