Skip to content

Posts from [TOURNAMENTS MMH6 ON] Blood and Tears

No ratings yet — be the first to rate!
14 years ago
Auto-translated
A new tournament begins:

Blood and Tears


This thread is for discussing everything related to the tournament rules.

TOURNAMENT TABLE

General Concept

The basis of the competition is the age-old confrontation between good and evil.
Two teams participate in the tournament: Team Blood and Team Tears. Participants choose a side during registration.
(if there is an imbalance toward one of the teams, the last registered players will be automatically moved to the other team to maintain balance. For example, if there are 5 people for Team Tears and 11 for Blood, then 3 people will be moved to Team Tears)

Team Blood can only increase blood reputation.

Team Tears can only increase tears reputation.

Each participant will play against all players of the opposing team.

The head judge of the tournament is EGO(heroesplanet, GreenE), icq 4320178, Skype: g-r-e-e-n-e-g-o, mail_ego@list.ru.
It is preferable to ask questions via email.

Preparation for Battle

1. Check your opponent's contact details and contact them first. Do not wait for them to reach out to you.
2. Agree on a game time and try to be punctual.
3. The judge will set a deadline for each tournament round. If the game does not take place, both players receive 0 points.
4. What to do if the opponent refuses to play? Write about the situation to mail_ego@list.ru. Attach a screenshot of your conversation with the opponent. In this case, you will be awarded a technical victory.
5. Be polite. A loss is no reason for rude remarks. Points will be deducted for unsportsmanlike behavior.
6. After the game, send the result to the email address mail_ego@list.ru. The email must include:
1) tournament nickname (the one provided during registration)
2) race
3) who won
7. Can no longer play? Write to mail_ego@list.ru. The "6th Trial" tournament would have gone 10 times faster if we hadn't waited for deadlines because of people who suddenly disappeared.
8. Unable to play this specific match in time? Write to mail_ego@list.ru and your opponent. You will receive a technical defeat for this round, but you will remain in the tournament.

Gameplay

1 . Games are played in Conflux Heroes 6 (standard internet game) only on the Buka version of Heroes. Surveys showed that the vast majority of players have the Buka version.

2. Game settings:

Game Type: Standard
Mode: Free-for-all
Difficulty: Hard
Hero Development: Normal
Dynasty Advantages: Disabled
Even Resource Distribution: Enabled
Powerful Secondary Heroes: Disabled
Turn Time: Fixed 5 minutes (can be changed by agreement of players)
Battle Time: Unlimited (can be changed by agreement of players)
Movement Speed: Very Fast or slightly lower (can be changed by agreement of players)
Battle Speed: Very Fast or slightly lower (can be changed by agreement of players)

3. Daily saves are mandatory. Whether manually or via autosave. The entire last game week must be saved.

4. Map: Rise to Power (can be changed by agreement of players)

5. Race selection is done by choosing a race (except Necromancer) or by "черк" (striking out).
Striking can be done via email, Skype, etc. Additionally, I have improved my program. In the strike-out process, the option "All available races" must be selected. The one creating the strike-out should be a representative of Team Tears.

In the "I want" section, you can choose a race convenient for you (Necromancer is excluded from the list). If participant 1 chose a race and participant 2 chose to strike out, then participant 2 may choose any race at their discretion.

What is a race strike-out: Each player initially has certain Factions available. Players sequentially strike out one race for themselves or their opponent. They play with the races that remain after the strike-out process.

web-system for race strike-outs.

6. The use of any bugs, undocumented features, cheat codes, as well as unofficial programs and modifications is prohibited.

7. In case of connection loss or game crash, the last autosave is loaded; players are required to exactly repeat all their moves up to the moment of disconnection or crash.

8. "Red-rush" is prohibited, meaning an attack by the red player on the first day of the week with purchased growth (the red player may attack on the first day, but without purchasing growth). The "red player" refers to the one who moves first. Attacking is permitted if no troops were purchased from the castle.

9. Capturing a dwelling of skilled creatures before the start of the third week is prohibited.

10. Using a secondary hero not of your faction during the first week is prohibited. Exception: if you are playing against a Necromancer, you may purchase necromancer heroes.

11. Equipping the Guardian's Breastplate artifact is prohibited.

12. Naga faction players are prohibited from moving over water without boats.

13. During the first three game weeks, it is prohibited to upgrade blood/tears to the second level.

14. Orcs are prohibited from using the house of warriors on the map.

Streams
It would be great if any of the participants streamed their games. In this case, it is desirable to announce your streams in this thread.

Game Recordings
Game recordings that can later be used for a stream are also welcome. We could comment on the game together with the participant.
Since games are quite long, it is recommended to make video recordings in the following format: The first 3 weeks, then stop recording, and finally the final battle. Before the finale, you must show hero upgrades, stats, constructed buildings on video, and give a short tour of the map.
Then upload the video to any video-hosting service. Preferably without loss of quality and so that it can be downloaded.

The author of the best video recording will receive a prize personally from me: 1000r.

Playing in a Team
1. Each team must have a captain. Ideally, you choose him yourselves. Otherwise, I may appoint one based on personal considerations :)
The captain is responsible for the team and can lead it to victory or defeat. It is important that every participant feels part of a large, strong team. Perhaps participants should gather in conferences and discuss strategies and interesting "tricks" in the game.
2. Each team will be entitled to 2 substitutions. For example, player 1 cannot play. He informs the captain, who then looks for another team member who can play.
In this case, the victory point will be awarded specifically to player 2 (the substitute). The team loses nothing in this scenario.
3. If a person leaves the team, the captain may find a new person and register them for the tournament.
4. If teams have an equal number of points at the end of the tournament, the captain puts forward a player for an "ace-match" (i.e., a match that should decide the outcome of the confrontation)

Registration

1. Anyone who wishes may register.
2. For registration, you must provide:
- your nickname,
- your e-mail
- contact information (icq, skype, etc).
- when you can play (which days of the week, at what time)
- team (Blood or Tears). I remind you again that at the end of registration, the last registered players will be moved to the other team
- if you are moved to another team, will you still participate in the tournament?
3. A registration application can be submitted in this thread or on the portals listed below.
4. Registration takes place from 07.06.2012 to 17.06.2012
5. The list of all participants will be posted in this thread every 2 days.

Tournament registration is available at: heroesplanet.ru (this is the main thread, so information will definitely be up to date), heroesleague.ru, heroesworld.ru, heroesportal.net, heroes6.ru

attention! Please write your comments on the rules. They can still be corrected during the registration phase. But after the tournament starts — dura lex.

PS to site administrators: I would be glad if you added the news to your sites.

Participant List
T4iSHnp
- 2478024[at]gmail.com
- skype: wishnya-studio
- any day after 17.00 Moscow time
- Tears
- Cannot give a definitive answer yet

net23-Immortal
- net23-Immortal@inbox.ru
- icq-385408594
- I can play on weekdays after 16-00 (Moscow time) or on weekends by agreement.
- Team - Nagas (Tears)
- If moved to another team - I will play

Juriy33
- X-men33@mail.ru
- Skype juriy353

Emer-Gen
- emergen@inbox.ru
- skype: emergen1984
- weekdays from 20 to 23, weekends - by agreement
- Tears
- I will be there

dr.dreavrelyRUS
- dr.avrely@yandex.ru
- tears (Haven)
- weekdays from 16.00 Moscow time
- Weekends by agreement
- If moved, I will be there

name: Zamolxis
- email address: rgraurus@yahoo.com
- Contact information: Skype: zamolxes1973 , please add me;
- free time to play: weekends: 99% sure, evenings 55% probability;
- haven't decided yet if blood or tears, but I am until 17.06.2012

Maksim Bocharov
- E-mail: BMP1978@inbox.ru
- Weekdays: after 18.00 Moscow time
Weekends: by agreement
- Tears
- I will participate in any case

Rinzler_II

- Angel_of_death_27@mail.ru
- 27-prototype-27@mail.ru
- skype:black_hawk_232
- Weekdays: after 18:00 Moscow time
- Tears
- If moved, I will be there

vermord
- vermord@mail.ru - email
- vermord - skype nick
- vermord. - heroes nick (Buka)
- blood
5, I will play in any case )

beardedbeer
-beardedbeer@gmail.com
-skype: mita_yya
- weekdays after 21:00 Moscow time, weekends by agreement.
-Team: blood.
- doesn't matter who I play for. going for blood because everyone is for tears. don't think I'll be moved
User Avatar
14 years ago
Auto-translated
net23-Immortal
net23-Immortal@inbox.ru
icq-385408594
I can play on weekdays after 4:00 PM (Moscow time) or on weekends by arrangement.
Team - Nagi (Tear)
If assigned to another team, I will still play.
In reply to net23-Immortal
14 years ago
Auto-translated
Currently registered:

T4iSHnp
- 2478024[dog]gmail.com
- skype: wishnya-studio
- available any day after 17:00 Moscow time
- Tears
- Cannot give a definitive answer yet

net23-Immortal
- net23-Immortal@inbox.ru
- icq-385408594
- Can play on weekdays after 16:00 (Moscow time) or on weekends by arrangement.
- Team - Nagi (Tears)
- If transferred to another team, I will play

Juriy33
- X-men33@mail.ru
- Skype juriy353

Emer-Gen
- emergen@inbox.ru
- skype: emergen1984
- on weekdays from 20:00 to 23:00, on weekends - by arrangement
- Tears
- Will play

A proposal has been made to remove the race restriction. Emer-Gen believes that this will create an imbalance in favor of Tears.
What does everyone think about this?
In reply to Победитель
14 years ago
Auto-translated
Rule change: for a "cherk" (draft), all races are available except one (Tears cannot choose Inferno, and Blood cannot choose Haven).
Continuing to discuss T4iSHnp's idea. Personally, I like it very much. Most likely, we will use this system.

Currently registered:

T4iSHnp
- 2478024[at]gmail.com
- skype: wishnya-studio
- any day after 17:00 Moscow time
- Tears
- Cannot give a definitive answer yet

net23-Immortal
- net23-Immortal@inbox.ru
- icq-385408594
- I can play on weekdays after 16:00 (Moscow time) or on weekends by agreement.
- Team - Nagas (Tear)
- If moved to another team - I will play

Juriy33
- X-men33@mail.ru
- Skype juriy353

Emer-Gen
- emergen@inbox.ru
- skype: emergen1984
- weekdays from 20:00 to 23:00, weekends - by agreement
- Tears
- I'll be there

dr.dreavrelyRUS
- dr.avrely@yandex.ru
- tears (Haven)
- weekdays from 16:00 MSK
- Weekends by agreement
- If moved, I'll be there

name: Zamolxis
- email address: rgraurus@yahoo.com
- Contact information: Skype: zamolxes1973, please add me;
- free time to play: weekends: 99% sure, evenings: 55% probability;
- haven't decided yet if blood or tears, but I'm available until 17.06.2012

Maxim Bocharov
- E-mail: BMP1978@inbox.ru
- Weekdays: after 18:00 Moscow time
Weekends: by agreement
- Tears
- I will participate in any case

Rinzler_II

- Angel_of_death_27@mail.ru
- 27-prototype-27@mail.ru
- skype:black_hawk_232
- Weekdays: after 18:00 Moscow time
- Tears
- If moved, I'll be there

vermord
- vermord@mail.ru - email
- vermord - skype nick
- vermord. - heroes nick (Buka)
- blood
5, I will play in any case )

beardedbeer
-beardedbeer@gmail.com
-skype: mita_yya
- weekdays after 21:00 Moscow time, weekends by agreement.
-Team: blood.
- doesn't matter who I play. I'm going for blood because everyone is for tears. I don't think I'll be moved

P.S. If the game doesn't work out immediately (3G in the suburbs), we'll agree on the next day and I'll go to the city to play.

10 people. That's already good. 2 teams of 5 people

T4iSHnp has a very interesting proposal regarding the "cherk" race distribution:
Regarding Emer-Gen's proposal...
Personally, I don't mind, but with the caveat that we then completely revise the "Cherk System".
It seems imperfect to me: it encourages a player's multi-racial versatility too much and penalizes single-race specialization too much.
My reasoning: it's not that hard to find out the favorite race of a single-race player (especially since the tournament follows a round-robin format) and cross it out with your first move. This is very wrong.
At the same time, I'm not saying that multi-racial versatility shouldn't be encouraged at all.

I propose to make the race selection system in 2 stages:

1) First stage.
1.1) Players, hidden from each other, can: a) choose a race; b) choose "cherk" (draft).

2) Second stage.
2.1) If both players chose "cherk" - then the draft happens according to the current system.
2.2) If both players chose a race - then a screen appears, for example: Player Vasya (Undead) vs Player Vova (Orcs)
2.3) If one player chose a race and the other decided on a "cherk" - then a screen appears, for example: Player Vasya (Undead), Player Vova can choose any race that is convenient for him against Undead.
In this case, everything is fair... Vasya chose the race he always played. And the multi-racial Vova gets an advantage: knowing that Vasya chose Undead, he can choose the most suitable race for fighting the undead.
14 years ago
Auto-translated
P.S. And one more thing. Each team must have a captain. Ideally, you should choose him yourself. Otherwise, I can appoint one based on my own judgment. :) Each team will be allowed 2 substitutions. For example, if player 1 cannot play, he informs the captain, and the captain finds another team member who can play. In this case, the victory point will be awarded to player 2 (the one who is substituting). The team, in this case, does not lose anything. If a player leaves the team, the captain can find a new player and register them for the tournament. A team can give up a point (victory) for the following: Team of Blood: 1 point - exchange races with "opponent's choice." Players randomly choose a race for the opponent. The representative of the Blood team starts. "Mirror matches" are prohibited (i.e., if you choose Orcs, you cannot choose Orcs for the opponent). 2 points - change the map. The starting position is chosen by the representative of the opposing team. 4 points - remove a player from the tournament. A replacement can be found, but not before the next round. This guarantees that the Blood team will get one automatic victory and eliminate a strong player at the same time. (in the end, this ability costs 3 points) (can only be used once) 4 points - Anti-Magic. Cancels the ability of the opposing team. For example, the team... Team of Tears: 1 point - choose a race for yourself. Players choose a race for themselves. The representative of the Tears team starts. "Mirror matches" are allowed. 2 points - change the map. The starting position is chosen by the representative of the opposing team. 3 points - All-in. Allows you to arrange an "All-in" match. Half of the opposing team's points are at stake. The captains nominate any player for this match. The map and starting position are chosen by the representative of the Blood team. Races are chosen randomly. This allows the Team of Tears to get out of a serious slump or dig themselves deeper into a hole. (can only be used once, cannot be used in the last round) The captain must announce this decision. Points are deducted from the team's score but are not transferred to the opponents. Let's discuss this. If there are no objections, I will include it in the rules
14 years ago
Auto-translated
The link to the tournament table is in the first post. The team captains have been preliminarily appointed: Team of Tears - T4iSHnp Team of Blood - beardedbeer By the 20th, the teams need to: 1) Decide if they agree with being moved to another team (if there are any objections, write in this thread) 2) Finally choose a team captain On the 20th, during the day, we will start the competition. Each player from the first team must play against each participant from the second team. In ANY order. Coordinate and play :) The deadlines will be announced on the 20th. Pay attention to the "Streams" and "Game Recordings" sections. You can earn 1000 rubles in the meantime. ;)
In reply to GreenEGO
14 years ago
Auto-translated
So, the battle begins today! We have some changes in the teams. Rinzler_II is moving to the Tears team. net23-Immortal is moving to the Blood team. No further transfers are planned. As a reminder: each participant must play a game with each member of the opposing team. The order doesn't matter. Each participant must play 5 games! Send the reports to mail_ego@list.ru. Regarding the schedule: Let's mentally divide the tournament into 5 rounds. The maximum time for each round is one week. That is, by June 28th, each participant must have played one game. No penalties are предусмотрены, but: 1) if you are constantly late, you won't have time to play the last battles. The final deadlines will not be extended, and participants will simply receive a technical defeat. 2) it may be necessary to exclude those who are not keeping up from the competition. The team captains should monitor this. Captains! Make sure the participants don't disappear. If someone is missing, it might be worth excluding them from the team and finding a replacement. In this case, the points of the excluded participant will be transferred to the new one, and there is no need to replay the games. Monitor the deadlines and help the participants coordinate their actions. And get together on Skype, on the forum, in chats. You are a team!
In reply to GreenEGO
14 years ago
Auto-translated
It so happened that both captains want to withdraw from the tournament. Tomorrow, 07/03 at 23:00, we will schedule a Skype conference where I propose to discuss the current situation and other matters. All those who wish are invited, even those who are not participating in the tournament. Add me on Skype: g-r-e-e-n-e-g-o At 23:00, write to me so I can add you to the conference. A microphone is not required to participate in the conference; we will read and chat as well.
14 years ago
Auto-translated
Main results of the Skype conference: 1. In the Blood team, the captain is now Emer-Gen. 2. A new member has joined the Blood team: Supric, he replaces BreadBeer. skype: supric71 e-mail: supric@hotmail.ru I play on weekdays after 8:00 PM by arrangement, and on weekends by arrangement. 3. The Tears team needs to find another player. 4. We are expanding the map pool. The map "Strait" has been added.
In reply to GreenEGO
14 years ago
Auto-translated
Some time has passed, and the game reports have stopped coming in. :)

I suggest we get together again on Skype to discuss the current situation with the contest, patch 1.5, and just chat. :)

Let's meet on Wednesday at 10:00 PM Moscow time.
Add me on Skype: g-r-e-e-n-e-g-o
In reply to GreenEGO
14 years ago
Auto-translated
Hey everyone, let's do a headcount.
Captains (if there's no captain, choose any active team member), check in with the participants – who is currently active, has anyone dropped out, and send a list to mail_ego@list.ru
For example:
Participant 1 - has dropped out, looking for a replacement
Participant 2 - ready to play, waiting for an opponent
Participant 3 - temporarily unable to participate, will return soon

I'm waiting for emails until the 1st. If I don't receive them, I'll close the tournament and calculate the current score.
In reply to GreenEGO
14 years ago
Auto-translated
The tournament is over, and the Tears team won.

Statistics

Welcome our newest member: recijeb