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#1005
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Damn, it feels like the players don't understand obvious things...
Forget about the Mafia's night actions, once again.
We had blocks on Sylvan, Academy, and Dungeon.
In ALL the nights when they were blocked, ALL the visible night actions of the town were present.
Therefore, among the townspeople, they can ONLY be Jack, Dexter, and Bean!
But Jack is a different player.
Conclusion? There is 100% a negative role in this trio, at least one!
Of the three, the most suspicious one right now is Dungeon.
That's why we're executing him.
He's not a Mafia, but he's definitely a Moriarty/Hannibal type.
And if he's on the Godfather's team, then my theory about the Mafia being inactive will be even more confirmed.
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Zubr maf (I would take him down at night, we won't be wrong).
Well, yes, being reasonable is not in fashion these days))) You need to shout loudly, make Napoleonic plans, etc.
As for the facts - no, we haven't heard of them:)


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Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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Yes, let's execute the peaceful Jakk, what a brilliant idea. Zubr, you yourself suspected Lordi of being a negative influence. Why the sudden change of attitude?
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Tox, do you even understand what will happen next if there are two dead bodies in one night? Or do you think the Mafia will be so unlucky throughout the entire game? The Maniac has already killed Superman. What happens next?
And what if Lord is actually innocent? Then what? Your entire theory will collapse like a house of cards as soon as one "if" doesn't come true.
Maybe we should just look at the facts?


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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The fact is that there are far more obvious reasons to vote against Lordi than against Jaka. You're suggesting we vote against a peaceful player, and you're shamelessly using my evidence, which I myself have long acknowledged as unreliable.
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Zubr, didn't you suspect Lordi of having negative intentions? What caused the sudden change in your attitude?
I suspected him of being a maniac. There was evidence and facts to support that, but the last night cleared him in that regard.
Yes, let's execute the innocent Jack, what a brilliant idea.
What makes you say that? Because he's yelling about it in every post? You were doing the same thing, and almost everyone believed it, and it could have easily backfired. I firmly believe that engaging in nonsense like executing someone based solely on their behavior is simply foolish. We should base our decisions on evidence and facts.

I actually provided the evidence against Jack.


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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I'm also going by the NDA. Didn't you hear about "reasoning from the opposite"?
What evidence did you bring against him?
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The fact is that there are far more obvious negative arguments against Lordi than against Jack.
Really? You yourself named 3 town roles for him. And he's definitely not a maniac. With Jack, everything is much sadder.
You're suggesting to eliminate a peaceful player.
And you're not?
Moreover, you're shamelessly using my clue, which I myself have long recognized as useless.
Did you patent it or something? That's one. Secondly, there are clues and blocks against Jack. Almost a complete set. If you can provide the same for someone else, then please, let's execute someone else. But not based on mere speculation.


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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Tox, do you only read your own posts and not others? Okay. For you:
Oh lol))) Execute Arandor :D Completely without evidence or references to ND (Night Detective). Just a three-day block, even though the mafia's ND is described everywhere.
City, are you all okay?
You have two options:
1) Execute Jack. The clue of the day might not be the "Oscar" itself, or the "actors who received it," but rather the significance of the Oscar as an important award in cinema. And since the actor in Jack's avatar is a Merited Artist of Lithuania and the USSR, here's your parallel. (As I see it, this is a plausible version, not too obvious, but not completely absurd either.)
2) Find another interpretation of the Oscar clue, then connect it to the clue from the first day, and find an argument for the actions of the killer on the second night.

Stop wasting time on nonsense if you don't want to lose. Even if Tox is 100% innocent, that doesn't mean his wild plans should be trusted.
I'm proceeding based on ND. Haven't you heard of "reasoning from the opposite"?
Yes, there can be 3 innocent roles. 3! In the worst-case scenario, all three candidates will be innocent, and then what will we do? Wasn't the shame of the previous mafia game enough for the city? You're trying to kill someone based on some vague guesses.


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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#1014
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Jack has no blocks. =___=
I won't execute a maniac, even if it really is Jack.
Lord is negative. He doesn't have any peaceful roles. And you're Mafia.

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Ugh, I forgot that Gur hinted that Jack is the maniac.
But executing him is the same as prolonging the game for another three days.
I propose a solution that will leave us against an obvious Mafia team of only two people the very next day.

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http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Фундаментальные_физические_постоянные
Here are the fundamental physical constants.
Look for evidence on Lex, since you like them so much, Zubr.
Or don't you want to look for evidence against yourself?
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I won't execute the serial killer, even if it really is Jack.
Lol, seriously.
Jack has no blocks. =___=
Exactly! On the third night, when the serial killer killed, Jack wasn't blocked; on the second night, the opposite. On the first night, there was a kill, but no block.
Lordi is negative. He doesn't have any peaceful roles. And you're mafia.
Are there no peaceful roles left? That's quick...


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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Look for evidence on Lex, since you like them so much, Zubr.
Or don't you want to look for evidence on yourself?
It's a planted one, lol. The chances of it leading to an innocent player are much higher.


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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#1017
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Jack wasn't in the block for the second night. What and Lordi blocked him.
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Jack wasn't in the block for the second night.
Okay, he wasn't. But that doesn't really change anything.


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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#1019
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Zubr, if you're peaceful, would you agree to follow my plan, at least at night?

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Cancel Lordi's execution, execute Jack.
I've created such a mess that we won't have time to sort it out.
At least, we'll have two guaranteed votes from Zubr and Gur, and we might still be able to avoid going into the Non-Negotiable Night (NNN).
I'll come up with a plan for the night when the maniac is executed later.
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