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Kitz, according to your version, who was Tox? And why did he act this way during the day?


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when Ney is a maniac, Vegtam is a mobster.
Vegtam's post contradicts this somewhat, but the scheme still holds true.


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Why is it necessary to kill a peaceful player? Whether there's 1 mafia member, 3, or 10, they only have one shot. The danger they pose to you is the same. In my opinion, killing a mafia member isn't any worse.
With a living commissioner? No, that's not very good. Firstly, the mafia will reveal themselves. That's not allowed here. There need to be more mafia members, as targets for the daytime execution. And when only active roles remain among the peaceful players, and there's only 1 mafia member, that's not good for the maniac. Just as it's not good for the mafia.
It's a different story if only peaceful players without any special abilities remain in the game. But in our case, it's different.
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Even if Kitz is Mafia, she's a useful asset; she's already eliminated two Mafia members under these circumstances. All the best to her. But as far as I know, she doesn't particularly enjoy responsibility, and eliminating someone on the first night... that's strange, but possible. In any case, we need to finish off the Mafia.
Что такое осень - это небо
Плачущее небо под ногами
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With a living Commissioner? No... that's not very good. Firstly, the Mafia with the ability to investigate. That's not allowed here. There needs to be more Mafia members, as targets for daytime executions. And when only active roles remain among the townspeople, and only 1 Mafia member, that's not fun for the Serial Killer. Nor for the Mafia.
It's a different story if only townspeople without special abilities remain in the game. But in our case, it's different.
So, have you decided whether the Commissioner is alive or not?)
And the most important question is about Tox's role.


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Отдай свои прошлые сны,
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Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
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Zybr
You need to decide whether the commissar is alive or not.
The most important question is about Tox's role.
This can only be found out at the end of the game; he's a mafia member, lol, and the town member too. That's why it's impossible to figure out who he is.
Что такое осень - это небо
Плачущее небо под ногами
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All day today, I kept writing things like "he's not the murderer," "most likely not the murderer," and so on. You can check it yourself.
Really? Okay, fine.
Wow! It seems someone else is starting to doubt Dragoon. I was already starting to believe him.
I can't say I completely trust him, but after his recent posts, doubts have arisen, yes. I just can't understand his logic. What didn't he like about my role assignment? Is it impossible? No. It's obvious to me, but for some reason, it's not obvious to him. He doesn't even consider the possibility that Neyra might be the murderer, and Vegtam might be part of the mafia. Why?
Toxic... I don't know. He was either the investigator or part of the mafia. If he was the investigator, I can't imagine how he could have played so poorly during the day. Why would he expose himself as the murderer? To find out who the real murderer is? That's silly. I don't think the real murderer would start assuring others that Toxic isn't the murderer, and he definitely wouldn't reveal himself. We'll ask Toxic after the game. I'm very interested in hearing his version. If Dragoon is indeed part of the mafia, and Toxic was the investigator. Then what? Why did Dragoon write that I'm not part of the mafia? Wouldn't it be more beneficial for him to accuse someone else? Or did he want to gain my trust? At night, I would continue to protect him, because I would definitely believe that he's a good guy. He wouldn't become the murderer's victim; he would kill a peaceful player or a member of the mafia. And the next day, he would say that he investigated, for example, you, and you turned out to be part of the mafia. You would be executed, and... that's it, the game is over. The mafia wins.

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You need to decide, is the investigator still alive or not? The most important question is about Toxic's role.
Zubr, am I a psychic or something? I don't know if he's alive or not. I've outlined two possible scenarios for you. Choose the one that seems more plausible.

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Even if Kitz is the murderer, she's a useful murderer; she's already killed two members of the mafia. All the best to her. But as far as I know, she doesn't really like responsibility, and killing someone on the first night... that's strange, but possible. In any case, we need to eliminate the remaining members of the mafia.
And if I'm the doctor, then I'm an idiot, and that's not surprising.
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Why did Dragnil say that I'm not the Mafia? Wouldn't it be more beneficial for him to slander someone? Or did he want to gain trust?
It's quite logical here. He provided information that was already quite logical and, at the same time, further assured others of his role.
I can't say that I completely trust him, but after his recent posts, doubts have arisen.
I have the opposite view.


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Отдай свои прошлые сны,
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Не думай, что будет потом,
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Zubr, am I some kind of psychic? I don't know if he's alive or not. I've outlined two possible scenarios for you. Choose the one that seems more plausible to you.
And I have these two options as well. You could go crazy trying to figure them out!


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
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Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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I can explain my position in more detail if needed. Let's analyze the situation: I'm the Sheriff, Lynx is the Cop. That leaves the Serial Killer, the Doctor, the Witness, and the remaining Mafia member. The Serial Killer can't be Zubr or Vegtam (they were blocked at night when the Serial Killer was active). Also, Zubr can't be the Mafia (we know there's only one Mafia member left, and Lynx said she blocked Zubr). Therefore, we have: I'm the Sheriff, Lynx is the Cop, Zubr is the Witness. That leaves the Serial Killer, the Doctor, and the remaining Mafia member. Let's consider the remaining players individually. Vegtam can't be the Serial Killer. So, he's either the Mafia or the Doctor. What suggests he's more likely to be the Doctor than the Mafia? In the first night, there was no treatment of the role (although the role description clearly states this). In my opinion, this is a logical explanation. Or do you disagree? Kitsunka can't be the Mafia, as I checked her and the result was "not Mafia." That leaves who? The Serial Killer and the Doctor. She says her role is the Doctor and argues that she didn't use the role treatment in the first night because she didn't know about it. Theoretically, this is possible, but it seems strange to me. First, the possibility of treating the role is clearly stated. Second, Kitsunka didn't familiarize herself with her role. Third, the GM, seeing that she was using regular treatment, didn't warn the "newbie" about the possibility of treating the role. Based on the above, now Neira can only be the Mafia, trying to appear innocent. What else is there to say? Let's execute the Serial Killer, Kits, and block Neira at night and execute her during the day.

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It makes perfect sense here. He provided information that was already quite logical and, at the same time, reinforced his role among the others.
I then explained why he might have done it if he were a Mafia member.
I have the opposite view.
That's strange. Well, I just don't quite understand your logic. We seem to think differently.
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Even if Kitz is a Town member, she's a valuable asset. She's already eliminated two Mafia members in this situation. All the best to her. But as far as I know, she doesn't really like responsibility, and killing someone on the first night... that's strange, but possible. In any case, we need to finish off the Mafia.
If she's Town, then Drag is the Sheriff, which means there's only one Mafia member left. And he's protected. We shouldn't execute him.
That's strange. Well, okay, I just don't quite understand your logic. We seem to think differently.
I'm sure you're not Mafia. But you could easily be the Serial Killer. And then Drag is the Sheriff. There's only one option here.
But I started my reasoning by suspecting Drag of being Mafia. And later, his arguments seem quite logical to me. I'm not the Serial Killer or the Doctor.


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Отдай свои прошлые сны,
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Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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I'll say it again. Mafia killed the troublemaker (Rimpel), so executing him is out of the question, but today we absolutely need to execute a negative player, and the only option left is the maniac. Are there any better candidates for the role of maniac than Kitz?
The end of the day is approaching, by the way.

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I'll say it again. Mafia killed the troublemaker (Rimpel), so executing him isn't an option, but today we definitely need to execute the negative player, and the only one left is the maniac. Are there any better candidates for the role of maniac than Kitz?
The end of the day is approaching, by the way.
When is the end?
Что такое осень - это небо
Плачущее небо под ногами
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